Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Yes climate deniers have said that 2007. And hey've also said that "climate always changes." And they've also said there's an ice age coming. And they've also said that global warming is just a crock of shit. And they've also said that climate change is a hoax. They hold all these opinions simultaneously...
Well yeah...it's not an echo chamber, and it may be hard for somebody used to the groupthink of the warmism faith to understand how different people within a group can disagree with each other, but it's true. On our side that can happen.
In fact here's one I just discovered. You're going to like this.
Do you know who Tim Ball is? That Canadian skeptic your side gets all excited about concerning whether or not he's a for real "climatologist." That guy.
Well I just learned something about him. Here's what he actually believes.
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There are two groups in the climate debate: those who believe human CO2 is causing global warming/climate change and those who don’t, respectively labeled Warmists and Skeptics. Warmists try to deny the difference, arguing skeptics are simply wrong. They refuse to debate, claiming the debate is over, which is like saying the science is settled. Both sides believe CO2 is a greenhouse gas causing warming, but disagree on the amount. Warmists claim it explains 90 percent, Skeptics an insignificant amount. Both avoid the real issue that CO2 is not a greenhouse gas, as demonstrated in the book Slaying the Sky Dragon. Warmists claim their computer models prove it. Skeptics do it by talking about climate sensitivity. They are both wrong, but the Skeptics are still practicing science and will adjust their views. It’s the difference between the science and political science of climatology.
http://drtimball.com/2012/co2-is-not-a- ... re-period/Boggled my mind a bit to learn he believed that about CO2 not being a greenhouse gas, but notice he also said this:
"Both sides believe CO2 is a greenhouse gas causing warming, but disagree on the amount."http://drtimball.com/2012/co2-is-not-a- ... re-period/