[BRAH]

JT did save us from Angry Tom, can you imagine him as PM?

[Thanos]

Yeah, for all his flaws and arrogance at least JT isn't a kook surrounded by ideological radicals. In hindsight it was a relief the election went the way it did. Mulcair never would have been able to contain the Dipper extremists. It would have made the number Bob Rae's crew did on Ontario way back when look like common sense in comparison.

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DP

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Didn't know about the Leap Manifesto so I just read it.....

[BeaverFever]

Thanos Thanos:

Yeah, for all his flaws and arrogance at least JT isn't a kook surrounded by ideological radicals. In hindsight it was a relief the election went the way it did. Mulcair never would have been able to contain the Dipper extremists. It would have made the number Bob Rae's crew did on Ontario way back when look like common sense in comparison.

Speaking of Rae, history does seem to be repeating itself:



http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... ice=mobile

I'll bet Notley hadn't even been premier for an hour before a right wing and business forces declared that she had single handedly ruined the province and was the worst government in the history of western society.

As for Rae, he was a one term premier during the worst recession since the Great Depression. His only legacy was a poisonous relationship with the Unions and massive cutbacks, something his Conservative successor was all too happy to continue and accelerate.

[Thanos]

The oil companies bit the bullet and realized early they'd have to put up with the Dips for at least four years. They were pretty co-operative on both the royalty review and the carbon tax. PC's and WRP are just doing their oppositional duty and haven't been too obnoxious about things so far. Most of the businesses are too busy trying to survive right now to get too involved in a scalp hunt for the Dippers. The majority of the bawling right now is coming from the SUN as usual. Leave the SUN aside as well as the type of clowns who get their "news" from anonymous e-mails and Facebook rants and I'd say most Albertans are at least still willing to give the Dips a chance. The overall meta remains that we've been screwed by the Arabs, by Christy Cluck, by the Keystone rejection, and by dicks like Denis Coderre. Even if a lot of Albertans aren't happy with Notley and are probably going to vote her out in the next round we're all generally logical enough to know that the real enemies lie outside our borders and there isn't much of anything any politician can do about that.

Quit listening to the tripe from people like andy. The vast majority of people in Alberta are as reasonable and sensible as anyone anywhere else.

[BRAH]

Braid: Notley needs to divorce the federal NDP

http://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/braid-notley-needs-to-divorce-the-federal-ndp
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What hurts the Alberta NDP and Rachel Notley is the Leap Manifesto and if she doesn't do this they're done.

[Thanos]

Yup. And there ain't many wiser in Alberta media than Don Braid.

[Thanos]

LOL. Rip 'em a new one, Gil! "Downtown Toronto political dilettantes". Priceless!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.3529980

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Alberta NDPers are tending to their wounds after falling prey to Toronto "dilettantes" and their "garbage" Leap Manifesto at the party's national convention in Edmonton.

"I'm spitting angry," says Alberta labour leader Gil McGowan. "These downtown Toronto political dilettantes come to Alberta and track their garbage across our front lawn."

The manifesto, which advocates a swift end to the use of fossil fuels, including a moratorium on new infrastructure projects such as pipelines, was spearheaded by documentary filmmaker Avi Lewis and his wife, anti-capitalism activist and author Naomi Klein.

While Notley and her cabinet ministers spoke out against the manifesto during the weekend, a motion adopting the principles of the document passed narrowly Sunday — opening the door to further debate.

"We had nothing to do with this nonsense," McGowan told CBC's Edmonton AM radio show on Monday.

McGowan, a party delegate and former federal NDP candidate, called support for the manifesto an "incredibly poor strategic decision" and "bad political optics."

"They didn't give any thought to the political problems they're creating for NDP in Alberta," he said. "They didn't give any credit for the work the Alberta government been doing on on climate change … the best climate change policies in the country, bar none."

The motion puts the Alberta new democrats in an awkward position, he said.

"The people who wrote this very naive document have just handed a big stick to the Wildrose and the PCs," McGowan said.

In fact, Wildrose leader Brian Jean wasted no time in calling the document "a radical anti-Alberta resolution," while Alberta PC leader Ric McIver linked the Notley government to "radical socialist ideology."

The manifesto will be discussed in every NDP riding and brought back to the national party convention in two years, a year before the Alberta provincial election.

"It breaks my heart," McGowan said. "We finally elect a progressive government in Alberta and these people are not giving them room to govern."

But it was on a personal level he felt most betrayed, he said.

As a labour leader the manifesto's disregard for working people annoyed McGowan the most.

"It makes them feel good to say that we have to deal with climate change and shut down the fossil fuel industry, but they ignore what they say has real implications for real people."

Suddenly the Alberta NDP sees the sense and value in the Fortress Alberta concept that they absolutely hated when Demon Harper first enunciated it. What a time to be alive!

[BRAH]

This is the end of the Alberta NDP and Rachel Notley because The Leap Manifesto threw all the nails in her political coffin with one giant HAMMER!

[DrCaleb]

BRAH BRAH:

This is the end of the Alberta NDP and Rachel Notley because The Leap Manifesto threw all the nails in her political coffin with one giant HAMMER!

I guess you missed where she disavowed herself and the Alberta NDP of the manifesto - two days ago?

[BRAH]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BRAH BRAH:

This is the end of the Alberta NDP and Rachel Notley because The Leap Manifesto threw all the nails in her political coffin with one giant HAMMER!

I guess you missed where she disavowed herself and the Alberta NDP of the manifesto - two days ago?

Rachel Notley didn't completely disavow it. Some of her strongest supporters have said she has one chance to fully divorce herself and the Alberta NDP from the Federal NDP since she will never do that they are done. The Leap Manifesto is so bad in optics some of the Alberta NDP strongest supporters have called it "Fucking Horrifying".

[DrCaleb]

BRAH BRAH:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BRAH BRAH:

This is the end of the Alberta NDP and Rachel Notley because The Leap Manifesto threw all the nails in her political coffin with one giant HAMMER!

I guess you missed where she disavowed herself and the Alberta NDP of the manifesto - two days ago?

Rachel Notley didn't completely disavow it. Some of her strongest supporters have said she has one chance to fully divorce herself and the Alberta NDP from the Federal NDP since she will never do that they are done. The Leap Manifesto is so bad in optics some of the Alberta NDP strongest supporters have called it "Fucking Horrifying".

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"These ideas will never form any part of our policy," Notley said Monday. "They are naive, they are ill-informed, and they are tone-deaf."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.3530309

I'd say she clearly disavowed it.

It's funny how butt-hurt the East got over Klein's comments about letting the bastards freeze in the dark, and now they want to do just that.

[Thanos]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

It's funny how butt-hurt the East got over Klein's comments about letting the bastards freeze in the dark, and now they want to do just that.

Not all of them. Just the dilettantes in downtown Toronto.

I love Gil McGowan for just letting fly during that interview and saying that one out loud. It's the best Albertan diss against the east since the freeze-in-the-dark & bums-and-creeps comments.

[BRAH]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BRAH BRAH:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

I guess you missed where she disavowed herself and the Alberta NDP of the manifesto - two days ago?

Rachel Notley didn't completely disavow it. Some of her strongest supporters have said she has one chance to fully divorce herself and the Alberta NDP from the Federal NDP since she will never do that they are done. The Leap Manifesto is so bad in optics some of the Alberta NDP strongest supporters have called it "Fucking Horrifying".

$1:

"These ideas will never form any part of our policy," Notley said Monday. "They are naive, they are ill-informed, and they are tone-deaf."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.3530309

I'd say she clearly disavowed it.

It's funny how butt-hurt the East got over Klein's comments about letting the bastards freeze in the dark, and now they want to do just that.

The only way Rachel Notley can completely disavow it is she needs to divorce herself and the Alberta NDP from the Federal Party which will not happen. The East thinks because Notley is Premier they can get some kind of revenge on the West, think again.