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BartSimpson BartSimpson:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Yet you continue to go to Church. Another part-time Christian.

First, and I say this with deepest sincerity: Fuck you.

You'll slam me in one post because you think me a Christian and then you'll slam me in the next because I'm not.

Again; Fuck you.

Not because you're not, but because you pretend that you're not. Your reaction speaks volumes.

You're not the only part-time Christian around, no need to get all wound up about it.

[N_Fiddledog]

Over 90% of the English gang-groomers were Muslim. As far as I know 100% of the arrested sex assaulters in Cologne were Muslim. The tactic of mob sex assaults is known in the Muslim world. It has a name - Taharrush.

Sweden was once known as the least likely country to expect a sexual attack. It is now known statistically in Europe as the most likely place to get raped.

Islamic law - the sharia - makes a woman worth half of that of a man. A women can be charged as an adulteress after being raped.

YouTube is littered with Imams and other cultural leaders excusing their followers' rapes on the grounds the raped women were asking for it by not hiding their bodies and only leaving their homes under the protection of male family members as women under the protection of their Islamic culture are required to do.

I can link you to a video of a woman being raped while the rapists holler Allahu Akbar.

There is no Christian equivalent to any of that. And you don't have to be a Christian to acknowledge a blatant, or easily noticed, even obvious, current connection between Islamic culture or ideology and abuse of women.

Although it would seem you do need to be a Regressive meathead to defend it.

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N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

There is no Christian equivalent to that. And you don't have to be a Christian to acknowledge a blatant, or easily noticed, even obvious, current connection between Islamic culture or ideology and abuse of women.

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And there's no Islamic equivalent to the chronic sexual abuse with priests.

I'm not Christian nor a Muslim. Standing back without any religious bias, it's easy to see that both have their own unique set of problems but one thing in common.

Both groups are pointing their finger at the other and saying "yea, but they did this".

[N_Fiddledog]

No you're not a Christian. You're a regressive.

It's evidenced by the fact you think you can make a false equivalency between the mass of evidence for a cultural and ideologically endorsed "war on women" in the Muslim world with some incidents nobody anywhere has ever attempted to legitimize concerning criminal priests. There are no apologists offering excuses of relativism for Priest pedophillia as you Regressives attempt to do with the Muslim worlds accepting abuse of women.

[OnTheIce]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

No you're not a Christian. You're a regressive.

It's evidenced by the fact you think you can make a false equivalency between the mass of evidence for a cultural and ideologically endorsed "war on women" in the Muslim world with some incidents nobody anywhere has ever attempted to legitimize concerning criminal priests. There are no apologists offering excuses of relativism for Priest pedophillia as you Regressives attempt to do with the Muslim worlds accepting abuse of women.

Hardly.

Just because I don't buy into your anti-Islam hysteria, doesn't make me "regressive"

It's always the same rabid-Christian types, like you and Bart, that bring these articles forward in some sort of endless game of "I told you so". And when people don't jump in, they're "progholes" or "regressives"

Yes, Islam makes people do some horrible shit. We get it.

[BartSimpson]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Yet you continue to go to Church. Another part-time Christian.

First, and I say this with deepest sincerity: Fuck you.

You'll slam me in one post because you think me a Christian and then you'll slam me in the next because I'm not.

Again; Fuck you.

Not because you're not, but because you pretend that you're not. Your reaction speaks volumes.

You're not the only part-time Christian around, no need to get all wound up about it.

If by your logic I'm a Christian then Bruce Jenner must be a guy.

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andyt andyt:

Yep. If Britain would just kick out all those Moslems, there would be no more sexual abuse of women and girls. Britain sex abuse free, in one fell swoop. Or at least no more reported sexual abuse, and no more foaming about it on CKA. Because when Christians do it, it's not worth reporting or remarking on. Ah, but to dream.

Who was claiming that?

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OnTheIce OnTheIce:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

There is no Christian equivalent to that. And you don't have to be a Christian to acknowledge a blatant, or easily noticed, even obvious, current connection between Islamic culture or ideology and abuse of women.

.

And there's no Islamic equivalent to the chronic sexual abuse with priests.

I'm not Christian nor a Muslim. Standing back without any religious bias, it's easy to see that both have their own unique set of problems but one thing in common.

Both groups are pointing their finger at the other and saying "yea, but they did this".

Personally, I'm pointing my finger at both of those groups, plus many others.

[andyt]

Fireworks Fireworks:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

There is no Christian equivalent to that. And you don't have to be a Christian to acknowledge a blatant, or easily noticed, even obvious, current connection between Islamic culture or ideology and abuse of women.

.

And there's no Islamic equivalent to the chronic sexual abuse with priests.

I'm not Christian nor a Muslim. Standing back without any religious bias, it's easy to see that both have their own unique set of problems but one thing in common.

Both groups are pointing their finger at the other and saying "yea, but they did this".

Personally, I'm pointing my finger at both of those groups, plus many others.

Why? There's rape in all cultures, all religions, including atheism. You want to point the finger at a group of people, point it at men. Or more broadly the stronger vs the weaker. To make this about religion is just stupid.

[BeaverFever]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

And there's no Islamic equivalent to the chronic sexual abuse with priests.

Just watched the movie Spotlight this weekend. The opening scene is a police officer and a prosecutor sneak a pedophile priest out the back door of a police station, into the custody of a Church official and without any charges or any record of arrest. The movie shows how the Church not only deliberately and systematically covered up sexual abuse for decades, but how in heavily Catholic cities like Boston, all kinds of members of society were in on the cover-up: police, prosecutors, judges, etc. All of these 'good Catholics' had been so brainwashed over their lives into defending their precious church that turning a blind eye to rampant child abuse seemed the lesser of two evils to them. Because god forbid the church be embarrassed.

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andyt andyt:

Fireworks Fireworks:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

And there's no Islamic equivalent to the chronic sexual abuse with priests.

I'm not Christian nor a Muslim. Standing back without any religious bias, it's easy to see that both have their own unique set of problems but one thing in common.

Both groups are pointing their finger at the other and saying "yea, but they did this".

Personally, I'm pointing my finger at both of those groups, plus many others.

Why? There's rape in all cultures, all religions, including atheism. You want to point the finger at a group of people, point it at men. Or more broadly the stronger vs the weaker. To make this about religion is just stupid.

But it is about religion in this case, more specifically the authorities backing off when it was determined that the alleged perps were Muslims. Allowing the Muslim perps to get away with it longer.

[andyt]

Don't see that anywhere in the op.

[N_Fiddledog]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Hardly.

Just because I don't buy into your anti-Islam hysteria, doesn't make me "regressive"

Your reliance on false equivalency and your leap to relativism is what makes you "regressive. Your need to defend groups or issues favored by the Progressive agenda in contrived ignorance of the obvious problems they bring with them as shown by real world evidence is what the Liberal Left is now calling "Regressive" and that is what makes you a "Regressive."

If we're name-calling like "You're a Christian so you suck" kind of thing, I mean.

Then I'm going to say, "Very well. You're a Regressive Prog so you suck, right back at you."

And noticing the dangers of the enemy ideology of Islam, is nothing more than refusal to ignore the obvious. You Regressives don't like that. Tough.

[BartSimpson]

Fireworks Fireworks:

andyt andyt:

Yep. If Britain would just kick out all those Moslems, there would be no more sexual abuse of women and girls. Britain sex abuse free, in one fell swoop. Or at least no more reported sexual abuse, and no more foaming about it on CKA. Because when Christians do it, it's not worth reporting or remarking on. Ah, but to dream.

Who was claiming that?

This is how Andy and a number of other equally irritating liberals play their arguments.

They say something that you never said, imply that you said it, and then they outrage themselves at this thing you never said and then they expect you to apologize for offending their precious little feelings.

The best way to defeat this bullshit tactic is to call it out when you see it and don't EVER, EVER defend yourself by saying, "No, what I meant was...", because these bastards DON'T misunderstand you, they're deliberately mischaracterizing you and the second you say anything approximating an apology they'll nail you for having said it.

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andyt andyt:

Don't see that anywhere in the op.

That's part of the back story.