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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:20 pm
 


BeaverFever BeaverFever:
I don't defend radical Islam...


Maybe you don't think you do. From where I sit and with my personal experience I see little difference between espousing idealistic liberal views and defending radical Islam. Over the years you've intersected those two paradigms many, many times.

I mean you no offense when I say your main problem is a lack of personal experience with the Islamic world. Your Muslim neighbors are not of that world. Most of them left it and for good reason. Sadly, most of them also miss that world and they want to impose it on you.

The reality of Islam and Islamic culture is that it is pervasively misogynist with women being the scapegoats for male misbehavior. Islam is a man's world where men are almost never held responsible for their own actions.

Wiki - which runs pretty liberal - even speaks to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and ... c_violence

Yet how many times have you argued contrary to positions on this topic taken by various aspects of the UN and women's rights groups?

Why should Islam get any kind of pass from you? And why do you seem to insist on trying to separate Islam from the fruits of Islamic culture?

Further, why is it that in the past you've ignored or denied the words of Islamic leaders who have said things that are contrary to your view of Islam? Why can't you take them at their word?

If these Muslims are not defending Islam from certain accusations then why should you?

Things to ponder.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:21 pm
 


BeaverFever BeaverFever:
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Show me a Moslem-run country that you think doesn't permit man-on-boy child abuse and I'll show you that they do.


How will you show that the country "permits" it? By finding some anecdote of it occurring in that country? I could do the same thing for the USA, or California, or Sacramento. Not just the Catholic church but other "respected" Christian organizations like the Boy Scouts of America, that were protected and/or not properly investigated because of their political/social influence and a general fear controversy.

And of course we all hear the news stories of the westerners caught going abroad for underage sex encounters - none to my recollection were Muslim countries, it's all places in SE Asia.


Pick one.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:23 pm
 


$1:
"Right-wing drivel" when translated from loney left means facts without prejudice.



Yeah right now you're starting to sound like that other guy...the one with all the links to Blazing Cat fur.

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You and andy both leap in with an anti-Christian article or try to defend islam almost every time someone posts about another islam atrocity.


I'm not sure I've posted an "anti-Christian article" per say, but I'm not above showing where Christians are/have committed the same atrocities that are supposedly caused by Islam, e.g. logical fallacies such as the one where certain Muslim leaders' affiliation with White Christian Nazi Germany somehow proves that only Islam as a religion is uniquely evil.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:29 pm
 


BeaverFever BeaverFever:
White Christian Nazi Germany


The Nazis were not Christians. If they were then there'd be no martyr named Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Bonhoeffer

Bonhoeffer was a Christian. The Nazis, in stark contrast, were not.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:30 pm
 


Yeah ... this is why I still support immigration restriction.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2342217/Pakistan-internet-users-Google-searches-gay-sex-despite-worlds-homophobic-countries.html
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:00 pm
 


Jin-Gitaxias Jin-Gitaxias:


That was another one of those facts that when originally reported on here got almost no attention from the apologists because it didn't fit their narrative.


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