[2Cdo]

Delwin Delwin:

It really is funny, can you imagine if every non-Muslim crime in the US was described as a "Christian Crime" just because the suspect happened to be baptized Christian. The double standard is really the apex of double standards historically.

When the Christians and Jews evoke salutations to their God when committing their crimes against humanity then you'll have a proper comparison. Right now all you have is your left-wing wet dream fantasy.

[PluggyRug]

andyt andyt:

Delwin Delwin:

It really is funny, can you imagine if every non-Muslim crime in the US was described as a "Christian Crime" just because the suspect happened to be baptized Christian. The double standard is really the apex of double standards historically.

Not a lot of Christians shooting in the name of their religion. But you have to wonder how a Christian nation, as the righties would have it, produces so many shooters, the vast majority of them who are not Muslim.

How can "not a lot of Christians shooting" equate with "produces so many shooters"

[Delwin]

andyt andyt:

Delwin Delwin:

It really is funny, can you imagine if every non-Muslim crime in the US was described as a "Christian Crime" just because the suspect happened to be baptized Christian. The double standard is really the apex of double standards historically.

Not a lot of Christians shooting in the name of their religion. But you have to wonder how a Christian nation, as the righties would have it, produces so many shooters, the vast majority of them who are not Muslim.

Right, so it becomes a "In the name of the religion argument". We understand that Muslims are more devout in their faith, they practice it by following it's tenants, and in all religions, being devout is considered virtuous. However, if we concede that a Christian who shoots up an abortion clinic is not following the tenants of his religion anymore than a Muslim whom blows himself up in a crowd is following their tenants, then it becomes more a question of 2 nutjobs whom went off the deep end. And their reasons for doing it are usually identical; disenfranchised, disgruntled, outcast, etc.



The real difference in my view is really about portrayal.

[andyt]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

andyt andyt:

Delwin Delwin:

It really is funny, can you imagine if every non-Muslim crime in the US was described as a "Christian Crime" just because the suspect happened to be baptized Christian. The double standard is really the apex of double standards historically.

Not a lot of Christians shooting in the name of their religion. But you have to wonder how a Christian nation, as the righties would have it, produces so many shooters, the vast majority of them who are not Muslim.

How can "not a lot of Christians shooting" equate with "produces so many shooters"

Read a little harder, you'll figure it out. I didn't say not a lot of Christians shooting. Fact is we don't get to hear about the religiosity of non-Muslim shooters. But, with the US having such a high percentage of Christians, good odds that most shooters are indeed Christian.

But again, what is it about a nation that is so devout that produces so many people who want to kill?

[Delwin]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Delwin Delwin:

It really is funny, can you imagine if every non-Muslim crime in the US was described as a "Christian Crime" just because the suspect happened to be baptized Christian. The double standard is really the apex of double standards historically.

When the Christians and Jews evoke salutations to their God when committing their crimes against humanity then you'll have a proper comparison. Right now all you have is your left-wing wet dream fantasy.

So this addresses my point pretty well I think. It comes down to professing ones faith in the commission of a crime.

That is to say that if during the commission of a crime I yell out, "God is great' or " I did it for Islam", then the onus for the crime itself is somehow deferred from the criminal doing it and somehow transposed onto the reason for doing it.

When else can this ever happen ? If I blame my crime on video games or violent cartoons, or the"devil made me do it" I bear the full onus. For some reason, if I subscribe my actions to being a Muslim, all of a sudden, my faith is responsible. Do you see the double standard here ?

[xerxes]

Delwin Delwin:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Delwin Delwin:

It really is funny, can you imagine if every non-Muslim crime in the US was described as a "Christian Crime" just because the suspect happened to be baptized Christian. The double standard is really the apex of double standards historically.

When the Christians and Jews evoke salutations to their God when committing their crimes against humanity then you'll have a proper comparison. Right now all you have is your left-wing wet dream fantasy.

So this addresses my point pretty well I think. It comes down to professing ones faith in the commission of a crime.

That is to say that if during the commission of a crime I yell out, "God is great' or " I did it for Islam", then the onus for the crime itself is somehow deferred from the criminal doing it and somehow transposed onto the reason for doing it.

When else can this ever happen ? If I blame my crime on video games or violent cartoons, or the"devil made me do it" I bear the full onus. For some reason, if I subscribe my actions to being a Muslim, all of a sudden, my faith is responsible. Do you see the double standard here ?

He doesn't. And won't ever.

[andyt]

Delwin Delwin:

tenants, However, if we concede that a Christian who shoots up an abortion clinic is not following the tenants of his religion anymore than a Muslim whom blows himself up in a crowd is following their tenants, then it becomes more a question of 2 nutjobs whom went off the deep end. And their reasons for doing it are usually identical; disenfranchised, disgruntled, outcast, etc.



The real difference in my view is really about portrayal.

That's tenets. (Once had a numbnuts instructor try to correct my work to tenants, which made absolutely no sense within the context, so it's a bit of a sore point for me).

People shooting up abortion clinics, I'm happy to classify as being religiously motivated shooters, and haven't heard about any Muslims doing that. But, most mass shootings (one a day in 2015) aren't aimed at abortion clinics. Most are done by alienated nutbars, not for religious reasons. Then you have the nutbars that use religion, in this case Islam, as an excuse to shoot - like the latest cop shooter.

[andyt]

xerxes xerxes:

Delwin Delwin:

So this addresses my point pretty well I think. It comes down to professing ones faith in the commission of a crime.

That is to say that if during the commission of a crime I yell out, "God is great' or " I did it for Islam", then the onus for the crime itself is somehow deferred from the criminal doing it and somehow transposed onto the reason for doing it.

When else can this ever happen ? If I blame my crime on video games or violent cartoons, or the"devil made me do it" I bear the full onus. For some reason, if I subscribe my actions to being a Muslim, all of a sudden, my faith is responsible. Do you see the double standard here ?

He doesn't. And won't ever.

Nope. By the time you reach his level of frothery, he doesn't see much of anything. Except hate.

[2Cdo]

andyt andyt:

Nope. By the time you reach his level of frothery, he doesn't see much of anything. Except hate.

And it's andys favourite Friday night activity. The leftie crcle jerk with himself as the pivot man.

[andyt]

You seem to know all about it. I have no idea what a pivot man is. What's the matter? Feeling left out?

[N_Fiddledog]

[Delwin]

You honestly watch too many of these poisonous videos. Your brain is rotting.

[N_Fiddledog]

So you can of course prove any of his facts wrong, I suppose.

Go ahead I'm listening.

Oh wait...you can't? No?

So what you're really talking about is opinions then.

His facts are right, but you don't like his opinions.

So basically all you have is some nasty things to say about somebody whose factually sourced opinions don't mesh with your opinion sourced opinions.

And that makes you superior, because why, again?

Regressive leftist magic-think is hard.

[desertdude]

Delwin Delwin:

You honestly watch too many of these poisonous videos. Your brain has rotted away.

There, fixed it for ya.

[Jin-Gitaxias]

xerxes xerxes:

$1:

It must really fuck up your day when so many of those 'white lone wolf shooters' keep turning out to be Moslems.

And it must really ruin your day when people are reasonable and don't irrationally condemn 1/5th of the world's population because of the actions of 0.0001% of them.

Another Thing: The far-right generates a ton of terrorism.
Yeah ... Muslim extremists cause terrorism. Neo-Nazis cause terrorism too. We don't talk about them as much. It's not convenient.