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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:45 pm
 


Delwin Delwin:
I feel like he should extend his deadline. I get what he is doing, he doesn't want to fall back on a campaign promise so soon in office but, obviously new information has become available and more caution is required.

I am only assuming he must have huge confidence in the process because it is an incredible political gamble for him to take. Who is really going to be that pissed if he extends his timeline to February or March ?

I just hope that his confidence is grounded in fact that he is privy too and we aren't because I am not nearly as confident that he can safely screen 25, 000 people in 40 days.


Agreed. Take them in, but slow the process down. It's not only about security, but about us being ready to properly look after the refugees. That will have much better long term results.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:49 pm
 


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raydan raydan:
You only ever link to right-wing rags, I suggested to go see a left-wing one once in a while... expand your horizons a bit. :wink:


I tried Rabble.ca once and needed a shower after reading it. PDT_Armataz_01_32

That's your bias showing... far-left or far-right, they all make me sick. 8O


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:52 pm
 


raydan raydan:
2Cdo 2Cdo:
raydan raydan:
You only ever link to right-wing rags, I suggested to go see a left-wing one once in a while... expand your horizons a bit. :wink:


I tried Rabble.ca once and needed a shower after reading it. PDT_Armataz_01_32

That's your bias showing... far-left or far-right, they all make me sick. 8O


You're a CBC guy aren't you? I find that biased.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:58 pm
 


Wrong for the CBC thing... as for being biased, everybody's biased.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:11 pm
 


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As long they bring in families, the risk is pretty small. My only concern would be if they allow in single men.


Not a chance in hell. These are UN HCNR vetted refugees. Families, widows, etc. Single men don't qualify.


Not exactly.

The UNHCNR only decides if they qualify to enter one of their camps as a refugee.

What you might call vetting or deciding which of those refugees can be sent to America, - and I would guess the process is similar for Canada - is done by contracted Resettlement Support Centers (RSCs).

http://www.rcusa.org/uploads/pdfs/Refug ... 0USCRI.pdf

In that part of the world these are most often run by Muslims and there have been credible reports of dirty dealings.

Also there is reason to believe the most heavily victimized of the refugees cannot make it in a UN camp to begin with, so UNHCNR will not be dealing with most of them at all.

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The Syrian civil war began in the spring of 2011 and, since that year, the U.S. has accepted more than 2,187 refugees, but only 61 Christians. The majority – 96 percent – are Muslims, mostly Sunni, while the another 25 refugees are a mix of atheist, no religion, other, Bahai, Yazidi or Zoroastrian. In 2015, the U.S. allowed in the bulk of its refugees – 1,829 – but only 30, or 1.6 percent, were Christian.

Christians accounted for about 10 percent of the Syrian population in 2011.

Part of the reason for the low numbers of resettled Christians in the U.S. may be that most Christians fleeing ISIS in Syria do not make their way into United Nations camps.

“Those camps are infiltrated by ISIS and jihadist groups,” said Nina Shea, the director of the Center for Religious Freedom and an international human rights lawyer. “The women would be vulnerable to rape and sex trafficking and the men would have to swear allegiance to the caliphate, according to aid people who have been in the camps.”

But the camps are the easiest way for migrants to register with the UN as refugees, Shea said. There is a heavy UN High Commission for Refugees presence in the camps, and simply gaining refugee status is the first crucial step in the long process of resettling.

“The UN is basically unloading; it’s emptying out its camps,” Shea told FoxNews.com. “It’s not seeking those who are outside its camps, much less giving affirmative action for those who are facing genocide. It’s just an expedience measure for those who are in their own camps, so non-Muslim minorities are poorly represented among them.”


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/11/17 ... s-in-cold/


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:14 pm
 


raydan raydan:
Wrong for the CBC thing... as for being biased, everybody's biased.


So what's you're problem then? Deal with the info bits as they come and vet them as best you can, then use reason to decide what does or does not make the most sense in each case.

Simply refusing to click a link that has multiple supporting references because one of your biased sites gave you the impression you were not to go there does not make you the smart one.

And yes, I do click the Gawker clinks when somebody is brave enough to actually post them. Ask Thanos. :wink:

Full confession. I too will make allegations concerning credibility, but I will also deal with actual content when it is offered.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:54 pm
 


N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
raydan raydan:
Wrong for the CBC thing... as for being biased, everybody's biased.
Simply refusing to click a link that has multiple supporting references because one of your biased sites gave you the impression you were not to go there does not make you the smart one.

Name one of my biased sites, because I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. [huh]


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:58 pm
 


raydan raydan:
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
raydan raydan:
Wrong for the CBC thing... as for being biased, everybody's biased.
Simply refusing to click a link that has multiple supporting references because one of your biased sites gave you the impression you were not to go there does not make you the smart one.

Name one of my biased sites, because I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. [huh]


Didn't you just tell me everybody's biased?

I'm going to assume there is a site somewhere that you prefer and it's not simply that every site sucks and all are too biased to be referenced according to rules of Ray.

Is it a matter of degree?

As I said the one you just wanted to censor had links to reference sources. Show me - not another site you don't like - but one that shows those references to be false.

If you can't do that, what's your problem?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:36 pm
 


looks like another Paris bomber was hidden among Syrian refugees: https://www.rt.com/news/323049-third-bomber-paris-stadium/#.VlIqcGAENsI.facebook


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:47 pm
 


This isn't going to make it any easier on legitimate refugees, which form the bulk of those seeking sanctuary in Canada. :| Those inundating Europe, wearing designer clothes and complaining about food and accommodations, are mostly economic migrants, of unknown origin. They should be flown back to the Syrian border.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:25 pm
 


60% of canadians disagree with liberal plan...a disingenuous headline-IF the poll is accurate it says that 60% of canadians disagree with doing it so QUICKLY!! Big diff


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:45 pm
 


Well, "fighting age" is a very broad concept. Besides,children under 18 can be easily brainwashed and manipulated. But I agree with Brenda saying “Those refugees are fleeing for the same violence you are so afraid of."


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:48 pm
 


Zing Zing:
Well, "fighting age" is a very broad concept. Besides,children under 18 can be easily brainwashed and manipulated. But I agree with Brenda saying “Those refugees are fleeing for the same violence you are so afraid of."


Ive dealt with their violence first hand and don't want it here.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:02 pm
 


Sounds like they have extended the deadline. 3 months gives a lot more time. I feel a little better about this.

Liberals won't meet deadline to bring 25,000 Syrian refugees to Canada by year's end

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal ... -1.3333623


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