[Zipperfish]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

funny that the feminists can get away with saying all men are potential rapists

It all makes sense if you look at males as dysfunctional females.

[stratos]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

It all reminds of an old Star Trek episode. Actually, just about everything reminds me of an old Star Trek episode. In this one, a planet at war had bred super-soldiers--heightened strength, intelligence, agression. But after the war, they had proved an impediment to general society and so were exiled to the moon.

Ther are issues with veterans having higher-than-background crime rates. There is some preliminary research indicating that the exceedance of the crime rate over the background level is somewhat correlated to the proportion of soldiers with PTSD. That is to say, it would not be too much of stretch to say that the more traumatic the experience, the more likely a soldier would be to commit a crime, statistically speaking.

KHAN!

[BartSimpson]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

It all reminds of an old Star Trek episode. Actually, just about everything reminds me of an old Star Trek episode. In this one, a planet at war had bred super-soldiers--heightened strength, intelligence, agression. But after the war, they had proved an impediment to general society and so were exiled to the moon.

ST: Next Generation. I remember it well.

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

There are issues with veterans having higher-than-background crime rates. There is some preliminary research indicating that the exceedance of the crime rate over the background level is somewhat correlated to the proportion of soldiers with PTSD. That is to say, it would not be too much of stretch to say that the more traumatic the experience, the more likely a soldier would be to commit a crime, statistically speaking.

Some of the reason why veterans come up as criminals is because after having killed tyrants abroad we lack the ability to tolerate the f*ckers at home.

[BRAH]

Military sexual misconduct due to 'biological wiring,' Gen. Tom Lawson tells CBC News
Peter Mansbridge was Gobsmacked !

[andyt]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

funny that the feminists can get away with saying all men are potential rapists

It all makes sense if you look at males as dysfunctional females.

That is exactly what you are saying, Zip. That all straight men are potential rapists because their biology makes them such. Otherwise there is no point what so ever to bring biology into this. Men have a frontal lobe, they can inhibit the parts of the brain involved in sexual desire, of which there are several. If they can't inhibit their sex drive, they need to be locked up.

The womyn at my uni weren't saying that all men are potential rapists, but that all men are rapists.

The point was made that sexual harassment is another form of bullying, it's about dominating and shaming the other person, less about sex.

[MeganC]

Gay men rape other men.

[PluggyRug]

MeganC MeganC:

Gay men rape other men.

Yes but homosexuals are wired using a different circuit diagram than heterosexuals.

[DrCaleb]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

MeganC MeganC:

Gay men rape other men.

Yes but homosexuals are wired using a different circuit diagram than heterosexuals.

No, they aren't. There's a lot of research lately studying what role a gene in women that makes women very attracted to men plays when a man gets that gene as dominant. It's very likely the basis for homosexuality. There is a similar gene that is dominant in men that make them very attracted to women, and if a women gets it as 'dominant' . . . well, then gay and hetero aren't that far apart.

[Zipperfish]

andyt andyt:

The point was made that sexual harassment is another form of bullying, it's about dominating and shaming the other person, less about sex.

I hear this a lot--that sexual harassment is a form of dominance. And that rape is not about sex, but about power. I'm not so sure the sex/power/violence thing is all separate. In the words of Jane's Addiction (Nothing's Shocking) "Sex is violence."

Why do women rape so much less then men, I wonder? Maybe biology has something to do with it.

[andyt]

Because they can't. They have other ways of dominating and shaming men.

For psychotherapists who have sex with their clients, of course the number one group is straight men with women clients, but the number two group is straight women with women clients. Ie it's not about sexual desire, but about the one up one down position.

The person commenting on sexual harassment as bullying says that likely there's a lot of non-sexual male on male bullying, but nobody wants to talk about that. Hello pvt Santiago.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

Because they can't. They have other ways of dominating and shaming men.

Indeed. Insisting that a rape culture exists is one of those ways.

[Lemmy]

andyt andyt:

That is exactly what you are saying, Zip. That all straight men are potential rapists because their biology makes them such. Otherwise there is no point what so ever to bring biology into this. Men have a frontal lobe, they can inhibit the parts of the brain involved in sexual desire, of which there are several. If they can't inhibit their sex drive, they need to be locked up.

The womyn at my uni weren't saying that all men are potential rapists, but that all men are rapists.

The point was made that sexual harassment is another form of bullying, it's about dominating and shaming the other person, less about sex.

All male primates rape. It is genetic. The concept of consent is a wholly social construct that runs counter to millions of years of instinct and evolution.

[BartSimpson]

MeganC MeganC:

Gay men rape other men.

A timely observation!

http://www.thelocal.se/20150617/sweden- ... -raped-men

$1:

Sweden announces first centre for raped men

A hospital in Stockholm is set to become the first in the country with an emergency department specifically for male rape victims. The clinic at Södersjukhuset is scheduled to open this autumn.

Södersjukhuset already has the largest emergency care unit in the Nordic region and runs a round-the-clock walk-in clinic for women and girls who have been sexually assaulted in the city, treating between 600 and 700 patients a year.

On Wednesday, the hospital announced that from mid-October, it would also admit men and boys as part of a strategy to ensure "gender equal" emergency care for rape victims of both sexes.

In 2014, some 370 cases of sexual assault on men or boys were reported across Sweden, according to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention, although experts believe that the actual figure is much higher.

"The general perception is that men cannot be raped," Lotti Helström, a senior physician at the hospital told Sveriges Radio, adding that male victims can suffer even more than women.

"In studies, the health effects are shown to be greater for men, both in terms of physical health and mental health. There is a greater risk of a raped man getting post-traumatic stress disorder," she said, adding that the subject of male rape remained "extremely taboo".

Helström explained that men were much more likely to be raped by other men than by women and said that the experience could lead to "sexual identity" problems in future.

Sweden has the highest rape rate in Europe, a statistic that gained global prominence in 2010, when Wikileaks founder Julian Assange was first accused of sex crimes in the Nordic nation, allegations which he still strongly denies.

It is worth noting that the country records allegations in a different way to most other countries, tracking each case of sexual violence separately. So for example if someone says they were raped by a partner every day for a fortnight, officers will record 14 potential crimes. Elsewhere, many countries would log the claim as a single incident.

Nevertheless, the nation's high statistics have made rape a matter of high level political debate in recent years.

Last year, a study by gender equality organisation RFSU suggested that in most municipalities across Sweden, men were uncertain where they could get emergency help following a rape.

On Wednesday, Inger Björklund, a spokesperson for the group told The Local that it strongly welcomed the new facility.

"There are myths about masculinity that make it difficult for men who have been sexually traumatised to talk about their experiences," she said.

"A clinic focusing on men who have been sexually abused will contribute to the awereness of experiences of sexual abuse among men and make it more possible to meet mens needs in a very exposed situation."

[andyt]

Lemmy Lemmy:

andyt andyt:

That is exactly what you are saying, Zip. That all straight men are potential rapists because their biology makes them such. Otherwise there is no point what so ever to bring biology into this. Men have a frontal lobe, they can inhibit the parts of the brain involved in sexual desire, of which there are several. If they can't inhibit their sex drive, they need to be locked up.

The womyn at my uni weren't saying that all men are potential rapists, but that all men are rapists.

The point was made that sexual harassment is another form of bullying, it's about dominating and shaming the other person, less about sex.

All male primates rape. It is genetic. The concept of consent is a wholly social construct that runs counter to millions of years of instinct and evolution.

Great. That means we've evolved. Unless you're suggesting human males can't help themselves and so should get a pass. When was the last time you raped a woman?

[Lemmy]

andyt andyt:

Great. That means we've evolved. Unless you're suggesting human males can't help themselves and so should get a pass. When was the last time you raped a woman?

Wow, that was some kind of projection. All I said was that primates rape. It's in our nature. Don't put this on me 'cause you're shooting a messenger. Male primates rape. They're also bisexual. You know that 'cause you've quoted me on it before.