[martin14]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

People are so thin-skinned. Who cares? I grew up saying the Lord's Prayer every morning at school and I don't think it had any horrible effect on me. Just check your email or something if you don't want to pray. I agree with Pan though--if this were Muslims it would have been a different result.

Yup.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/w ... -1.3036853





Webber Academy ordered to pay damages to 2 Muslim students over denying prayer at school

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Good riddance!

You want to say that again ?

[PublicAnimalNo9]

andyt andyt:

Are all the students forced to attend this, or is it voluntary? You can't seem to be able to distinguish between government functions, that cannot discriminate as to religion, must welcome everybody, and using part of a school for special instruction for voluntary attendees. As long as that school makes rooms available for anybody that wants to teach a specific religion, it's not a problem. They are not foisting a particular religion on anybody.

Bull-fucking-shit. If this was a room designated for religious Christian instruction in a public school you'd be soapboxing away about it, going on about how those sneaky Christians are trying to force their religion into the public school system.
One again, you can't reasonably argue that a publicly funded entity can't have prayer while another publicly funded entity can hold religious instruction during operational hours.

[2Cdo]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

andyt andyt:

Are all the students forced to attend this, or is it voluntary? You can't seem to be able to distinguish between government functions, that cannot discriminate as to religion, must welcome everybody, and using part of a school for special instruction for voluntary attendees. As long as that school makes rooms available for anybody that wants to teach a specific religion, it's not a problem. They are not foisting a particular religion on anybody.

Bull-fucking-shit. If this was a room designated for religious Christian instruction in a public school you'd be soapboxing away about it, going on about how those sneaky Christians are trying to force their religion into the public school system.
One again, you can't reasonably argue that a publicly funded entity can't have prayer while another publicly funded entity can hold religious instruction during operational hours.

Andy is just a hypocrite. End of story.

[andyt]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

andyt andyt:

Are all the students forced to attend this, or is it voluntary? You can't seem to be able to distinguish between government functions, that cannot discriminate as to religion, must welcome everybody, and using part of a school for special instruction for voluntary attendees. As long as that school makes rooms available for anybody that wants to teach a specific religion, it's not a problem. They are not foisting a particular religion on anybody.

Bull-fucking-shit. If this was a room designated for religious Christian instruction in a public school you'd be soapboxing away about it, going on about how those sneaky Christians are trying to force their religion into the public school system.
One again, you can't reasonably argue that a publicly funded entity can't have prayer while another publicly funded entity can hold religious instruction during operational hours.

The school isn't holding the prayers, it's providing space for them. They are not holding prayers that all students have to attend, only those who choose. It's no different than holding an optional origami class. The only caveat would be they have to provide this space for every religious group who wants it.

[BeaverFever]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Bull-fucking-shit. If this was a room designated for religious Christian instruction in a public school you'd be soapboxing away about it, going on about how those sneaky Christians are trying to force their religion into the public school system.
One again, you can't reasonably argue that a publicly funded entity can't have prayer while another publicly funded entity can hold religious instruction during operational hours.

How can you not see the difference between an organization that simply provides a room for religious groups to practice their religious rituals PRIVATELY and one where the the organization ACTUALLY LEADS the religous rituals and does it PUBLICLY???

These are not the same not matter what type of pretzel logic you try to employ.

[BeaverFever]

$1:

You want to say that again ?

*AHEM* I SAID:


GOOD RIDDANCE!!

[herbie]

$1:

Why would anyone want to pray at a council meeting?

If you live in a shithole town like mine, only God could save it....

[andyt]

That's the problem with God, he doesn't always see things the way we do. Sometimes he even lets the other football team win. Or give a kid leukemia, just for shits and giggles.

[N_Fiddledog]

Too much of this legislating from the bench business going on in Canada lately.

[uwish]

when I was a kid in grade school (k-8) and we had an assembly we always started with singing the national anthem, and then lords prayer (yes this was in the mid 80's). I didn't mind the anthem, but I never recited the prayer. Now, I don't think they do either, I like the idea of the anthem, but definately not any praying of anykind.

[BeaverFever]

Pretty sure they do the anthem everywhere.

[Benn]

Winnipeg voted to keep its pre-meeting prayers. Screw you SCC. BTW technically there is prayer in the anthem. Asking God for anything is technically a prayer. I guess we can sing that anywhere either now?

[stratos]

The talk about singing your Nation Anthem made me wonder do you have a pledge of allegiance to the Canadian flag like we do to the US flag? We did that everyday in Elementary school not the National Anthem.

[stratos]

$1:

What part of his statement is not tolerant?

"I don't understand why these yo yos ...."

The above can be considered an insult and the way it is used seems to be meant as one.

Thus a sign of intolerance thru insult.

[2Cdo]

stratos stratos:

$1:

What part of his statement is not tolerant?

"I don't understand why these yo yos ...."

The above can be considered an insult and the way it is used seems to be meant as one.

Thus a sign of intolerance thru insult.

I don't bother trying to explain anything to those two idiots because they would just deflect away.