[Canadian_Mind]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Jealous that you're not invited to be the pivot man? Why don't you crawl off somewhere and die you useless fuck.

I generally don't like the bullshit that goes on between people on here, but this was too funny to not appreciate.




Trying to get back to the somber point of this thread - RIP Sergeant Doiron

I'll accept full responsibility for straying. I took the bait from our resident troll and I apologize for that. Maybe it is time to just ignore his bullshit from now one.

RIP Drew, the good folks in Canada respect your service, and those that dont can go fuck themselves.

Fuck that, he made this thread political. I normally turn a blind eye when Andy says or does shit I disagree with, I don't need to block him for that. But in this case, it is a memorial thread, not a political one. It needed to be called out just as someone protesting Harper at this guys funeral would need to be called out and dealt with. Bravo.

[Freakinoldguy]

Thanos Thanos:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

......the idea that I served this country for so long defending pieces of shit that think like you makes me sick........

That's the part I always wondered about with military folks. In our country it appears to be close to a 1:1 ratio of people who are worth defending and those who are so existentially shitty on all of the measurable levels as 'human' beings that they actually kind of deserve to be fed to the likes of a Hitler or Stalin. It's not just the board choads here at CKA. It's the potential of someone dying for the likes of at least half of our Parliament or the Bay Street wonderboys that becomes kind of cosmically mind-boggling.

It may suck having to protect assholes who don't like you, respect you or even consider you necessary but, then again if we got to pick and choose who was defended there'd be alot of woglodytes besides the new arrivals speaking a foreign language which, is likely why the Gov't doesn't specify.

[bootlegga]

RIP Sergeant

andyt andyt:

First the guy dying in the avalanche not using common sense, now this guy. Too gung ho, not enough brains.

When you're training to kill people and wreck shit, that gung ho attitude is totally necessary. That's why the wall flowers wind up in circus (service) battalion and not in the combat arms.

[andyt]

bootlegga bootlegga:

RIP Sergeant

andyt andyt:

First the guy dying in the avalanche not using common sense, now this guy. Too gung ho, not enough brains.

When you're training to kill people and wreck shit, that gung ho attitude is totally necessary. That's why the wall flowers wind up in circus (service) battalion and not in the combat arms.

Sure, but when that gung ho attitude gets you killed when it wasn't necessary, well that's like a civilian getting killed for pulling a boneheaded move. The climbers didn't need to do an infamous climb during high avalanche hazard, these guys didn't need to do what they did - they weren't under attack or attacking the enemy.

As for this being a memorial thread, I would suggest posting it in an appropriate category. It's in current events. as far as I'm concerned that means as information about the even comes in, it's discussed. As for some idiot saying I politicized it, what's political about discussing what happened here. If there is no appropriate category for memorials, I suggest creating one. Instead of this reflexive "it involves the military so ten hut and only say nice things." Personally it strikes me as phony, same kind of bs we saw with Diana etc. Create a category "Honor our Fallen" say.

[martin14]

andyt andyt:

. as far as I'm concerned that means

This may come as a big surprise to you,

but no one, and I mean NO ONE, gives a flying fuck what you think.


It takes a special kind of stupid to be despised by so many here, and yet you are a real specialist.

[ShepherdsDog]

He's licking his fingers again.

[OnTheIce]

andyt andyt:

bootlegga bootlegga:

RIP Sergeant

andyt andyt:

First the guy dying in the avalanche not using common sense, now this guy. Too gung ho, not enough brains.

When you're training to kill people and wreck shit, that gung ho attitude is totally necessary. That's why the wall flowers wind up in circus (service) battalion and not in the combat arms.

Sure, but when that gung ho attitude gets you killed when it wasn't necessary, well that's like a civilian getting killed for pulling a boneheaded move. The climbers didn't need to do an infamous climb during high avalanche hazard, these guys didn't need to do what they did - they weren't under attack or attacking the enemy.

As for this being a memorial thread, I would suggest posting it in an appropriate category. It's in current events. as far as I'm concerned that means as information about the even comes in, it's discussed. As for some idiot saying I politicized it, what's political about discussing what happened here. If there is no appropriate category for memorials, I suggest creating one. Instead of this reflexive "it involves the military so ten hut and only say nice things." Personally it strikes me as phony, same kind of bs we saw with Diana etc. Create a category "Honor our Fallen" say.

So you need the topic in a specific thread to highlight that it requires some common decency? If it was a memorial thread you'd be any less of an asshole?

You really are a piece of work.

[Gunnair]

RIP. Wish somebody would create a Andy-trolls-memorial-thread-and-everyone-flames-Andy thread so the memorial threads don't get ruined by vitriol.

[N_Fiddledog]

In any case, Andy was offering his "expertise" based on limited and most likely incorrect information. And it's so tempting to say, "as usual."

However, the details are starting to trickle out from our side. The Canadian version conflicts with the Peshmerga.

$1:

Hekmat said he doesn't know why the Canadians were there. "I consider it an improper action by the Canadians, and illogical," he said.

But Canadian Defence Minister Jason Kenney and a senior Canadian military official said the soldiers had returned to an observation post at least 200 metres behind the front line.

The senior military official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly, said the Canadian soldiers were at the same observation post earlier in the day and co-ordinated with the Kurdish soldiers on how they would return that evening and what signals they would give. The official said the soldiers successfully passed through two Kurdish positions before reaching the third post, where they were fired upon.

"They got lit up by one guy for reasons that are unknown to us," the official said. "Once he started shooting, some other fellows from the Kurds engaged and that's when the injuries occurred."

The official said the Canadian soldiers were not at the front line to direct airstrikes that night. When asked if they were scouting potential airstrike targets, he declined to say what they were doing.

The three injured soldiers were in stable condition. Two remained in Irbil, and the third was flown to Germany for treatment. The official said Doiron's body won't be flown back to Canada until Tuesday at the earliest.

Canada has 69 special forces soldiers with Kurdish peshmerga fighters in what the government calls an advising and assisting role. They were sent to help train Kurdish fighters last September in a mission that was billed as noncombat, with the elite troops working far behind the front lines.

Canada and Kurds disagree on circumstances of Canadian soldier's death in Iraq