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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:51 pm
 


Yogi Yogi:
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why the publication ban here? Others planning terrorism were not so protected.



In this case authorities were given a 'heads up' prior to any act being carried out. The man was arrested andexamined and then found to be mentally unstable.

In the case of vince li, authorities were given no such 'heads up'. Consequently, li was arrested after committing his horrible act on Tim McLean. lis' personal info was released before he was examined and found to be NCR.


and this man was not found to be NCR, was in fact found to be fit to stand trial, but pleaded guilty to three out of 5 charges, with the rest to be determined later. Ie he's a convicted criminal - we don't usually have publication bans on convicted criminals. See the diff?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:43 pm
 


PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Your argument wasn't about its effectiveness as a weapon, but about how it's determined that a pipe bomb is extremely dangerous. Once again, its danger is in part a result of their inherent instability.
Do they provide the same kind of destructive power as a van filled with ANFO? Nope, but I'm sure as hell you wouldn't want to be in close proximity to an exploding pipe bomb.

I'd take my chance with the pipe bomb over a rifle.

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Then you brought up the Boston bomber and his pressure cooker bomb saying it "only" killed two people, but how many were wounded by shrapnel? Secondly, it was an outdoor explosion. Using a well made pipe bomb in an enclosed area can be just as effective as tossing a frag grenade into a room.


Indoors or outdoors doesn't change the energy of the bomb, the material strength of the casing, or the nature of low explosives. If anything indoors it would be less effective due to the number of objects getting in the way.

In short I don't believe you when you tell me a homemade pipe bomb made from gun powder is as deadly as a fragmentation grenade.

As for the people injured we should comment of the extent of the injury, not all of them are the same. A person that got a nick on the hand from a flying it of something is still an injury like someone that loses all their limbs. Simply put a pressure cooker filled with a high explosive would have killed many, many times more people even if the number of injured was similar.

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To be honest I'm mostly just upset over the wording.

Every rifle is high powered, every amount of ammo is a massive stockpile, every explosive is an extremely deadly device.


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