[ShepherdsDog]

Nah....I doubt any of those fucks would bat an eye if someone defecated on an altar during Easter. It's only cartoons that draw their ire.

[andyt]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

And what's wrong with them taking it one step farther? Should the states that sponsor terrorism be free from criticism and ridicule from expats because the people doing it aren't there anymore and like you don't care what happens to the people left behind.


I guess given that criteria we should just forget about those 300 girls Boko Haram kidnapped or the Qatif rape case in Saudi Arabia because it doesn't involve Canadian Muslims.

Boko Haram is not a state, in case you're confused. And there were all sort of Muslims speaking out about it. You're just looking for a nit to pick. WTF that has to do with Muslims in Canada is beyond me. They didn't do it, they didn't support it. Many Muslims speak out about what other Muslims do, whether states or nt. You can't hear it because you've got your little program in your head, doesn't matter what they do it's not enough. And when they do hold a protest about it, your response is to tell them to keep their squabbles at home.

And criteria is plural, so it would be "those criteria."

[N_Fiddledog]

Some info on the shooter's BC Mosque - who they support, and who supports them

[Freakinoldguy]

andyt andyt:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

And what's wrong with them taking it one step farther? Should the states that sponsor terrorism be free from criticism and ridicule from expats because the people doing it aren't there anymore and like you don't care what happens to the people left behind.


I guess given that criteria we should just forget about those 300 girls Boko Haram kidnapped or the Qatif rape case in Saudi Arabia because it doesn't involve Canadian Muslims.

Boko Haram is not a state, in case you're confused. And there were all sort of Muslims speaking out about it. You're just looking for a nit to pick. WTF that has to do with Muslims in Canada is beyond me. They didn't do it, they didn't support it. Many Muslims speak out about what other Muslims do, whether states or nt. You can't hear it because you've got your little program in your head, doesn't matter what they do it's not enough. And when they do hold a protest about it, your response is to tell them to keep their squabbles at home.

And criteria is plural, so it would be "those criteria."

Thanks for pointing that out but, I used Boko Haram to emphasise the absurdity of your claim that:

$1:

I don't give a shit what they do in Muslim countries. That's their business. In fact I don't want Muslims to bring their squabbles from other countries over here. Let it go, be Canadian

You may claim to not care but, for a person who couldn't give a shit about what happens in Muslim Countries, you spend an in ornate amount of time on these forums bitching about what actually does happen in places you couldn't care less about.

As for the programs in my head, you're right. Sometimes enough isn't enough and I'd personally like to see them speak out against regimes and countries that export terrorism and have human rights records that make North Korea look like Disney land since it makes their denouncing terrorism and violence seem somewhat more self serving than sincere which unfortunately is a fact they have to deal with.

$1:

Speakers at the news conference expressed grief and extended condolences to the families affected by the attack, but they also hinted at the strains the event will likely put on Muslim-Canadian communities. A representative for the Canadian Council of Muslim Women spoke of living “under a microscope” of suspicion since Sept. 11, 2001.

Although, it's nice that they're denouncing terrorism and violence but, until they actually denounce all the perpetrators of those abominations including the states that sponsor and support it, they're falling short on a chance to really show that like the rest of us they're truly sick of the violence not only here but all over the world.

[PluggyRug]

These people are just jumping on the 'we are the victims' bandwagon.

[N_Fiddledog]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

These people are just jumping on the 'we are the victims' bandwagon.

Yes, and the media offers the assist for the win.

They're foaming at the mouth, when somebody - could have been another Muslim or a kid for all we know - writes graffiti on a Mosque in no-name northern Alberta, but how much media did you notice when the ISIS returnee sprayed the Jewish Temple with gunfire in Belgium, or when the Hamas backers trapped the worshippers in the temple in Paris? And would some of CKA have even known about the two Canadian women head stomped by Hamas supporters on the streets Calgary, if followers of right wing media here hadn't dragged them to the story and rubbed their noses in it?

Look at the stats. Muslims are not the most persecuted anywhere. But if you just listened to the whining on say the CBC, you'd swear they were.

Organizations like whatever CAIR is called here now, or the Jihadi loving mosque mentioned above lie like carpets about how when people get murdered by Islamic converts or other Jihadis, then backlash against Muslim becomes the real problem we have to worry about. They lie, and we just pretend we don't notice, nod at the CBC or whoever, and say "yes sir, no sir, poor Muslims, wicked us, sir. We need to just accept our ideologically driven murders and shut up, unless we're pitying the ideology responsible sir."

[N_Fiddledog]

And no, I don't hate all Muslims. I'm not even sure "hate" is the right word. I'm a fan of this kid.

[123zxc]

The way I see it.

We are sending support and aircraft to fight a "battle". The "battle" is not against a specific country but against at an idealism....fundimental Muslims (ISIS).

I don't see a problem with asking Canadian Muslim's where they stand. With No Information ...we tend to speculate ....who wouldn't? It has to be more than words.

If the Canadian Muslims want to be Canadians ...Canadians will stick together and protect each other

Somebody needs to take the steps to break this chain of mistrust

Tensions may get a lot worse. I am wondering what would happen if one of our planes goes down and the pilot is captured. How are Candians going to deal with it. War is not nice. Canadians may die out there or return seriously fucked up.

We are going down a road and need to prepare ourselves for what may happen. That way we can react fairly without gut reactions. To blame or hate is easy.

[ShepherdsDog]

Exactly Canadians of German, Italian, Austrian, Romanian, Hungarian, Japanese and Ukrainian descent fought against soldiers of the Axis powers....Catholics fought against Catholics and Protestants against Protestants. Many of these Canadian soldiers were 2nd generation Canadians as well, with familial ties in enemy nations.