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DrCaleb DrCaleb:

xerxes xerxes:

I guess I must be the only person here who is against the death penalty.

Nope. I don't agree with it either, but it is the law in some states. If it must be carried out, it should be as quick and painless as possible. I also think that people convicted of life/no parole should have an assisted suicide option. But, I'm strange and that shouldn't be a big surprise.

You're right and as my dear old daddy used to say. "Anything worth doing is worth doing well" and that includes removing the vermin from the planet.

So, America if you're gonna carry out state sponsored executions FFS do it properly.

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xerxes xerxes:

I guess I must be the only person here who is against the death penalty.

I'm against the death penalty for anything other than sexual assault.

Torture and dismember a couple of kids, no death penalty, slap a woman on the butt, go to the gas chamber? Sounds pretty idiotic. why are you against the death penalty, except for this one instance? Sexual assault is a crime which often comes down to he said she said. Pretty hard to make a false claim of murder, much easier to call consensual sex rape after the fact to hide that you stepped out on your boyfriend, or to try to get out of being responsible for an accident, or even tho there is video evidence of you willing participating in a gang bang (actual cases) or because you're a total nut bag or what have you.

If state murder is wrong, it's wrong all the time. If you support state murder, at least support it for across the board. We don't even give the max penalty (life with no parole for 25 years) for sexual assault as it is.

Nuts.

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PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

That's because the US is one of the only Western countries that isn't drowning in lefty whitewash, yet. The idea that the death penalty is not justice but merely revenge/vengeance us utter hogwash.

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So what is it then? It's not a deterent. And it's not rehabilitation.

It's called justice. Do you seriously think someone like say, Paul Bernardo, is capable of rehabilitation?


In fact, I'd go so far as to say that making sure garbage, like Joseph Wood, has a roof, clothes and 3 squares a day while [potentially] having access to cable and internet is an absolute insult to justice.

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Might be, but it beats the alternatives. It always struck me as funny that the same poeple who are quick to defend the death penalty are often the smae people who go on and on about government being too big, or not trusting the government and so on. They don't trust the state to regulate banking or pass good environmental laws but they\re willing to give this kind of power to the state? Just strange to me.

The state provides the framework for such a sentence and performs the executions. It's the judges, not the state, who hand out the actual sentences, at their discretion.
However, I also think that once a death sentence is handed down, the victim's family should be permitted the opportunity to show mercy/compassion and have the sentence commuted, if they so desired.
At that point, life in prison should mean exactly that, until you die.

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[andyt]

Slapping a woman on the butt is torture - got it.

You do believe in state murder, you've just advocated for it. Can we at least also kill women who slap men on the butt?

As for your assertion that false rape claims are non-existent - give your head a shake. No, don't, the few brain cells might fall out.

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[andyt]

Of course it doesn't outweigh true incidents. FBI estimates about 25% of reported cases are false. But to state murder somebody when it is so easy for women to falsely claim rape is worse than the travesty of the US execution system. Including the case of the man on death row for rape, identified by the victim, when DNA later proved it wasn't him. Guess all blacks look alike.

State murder just brutalizes the society and gets innocent people killed.

Harsher penalties for rape, I have no problem with. Especially rape of children, which has sometimes produce ridiculously short sentences. As long as the person is still alive, and is later found innocent, at least we can try to make it up to them.

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[llama66]

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xerxes xerxes:

I support euthanasia because that's about personal freedom.

So Bart is right, you really don't have a problem with people dying,
just the conditions around it.


Your value of life is flexible.

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My problem with cases like this is that this nothing more than state sanctioned revenge. If a private citizen fed another person a cocktail of drugs that took 2 hours to kill they would be facing the death penalty. But when a government does it, it's "justice".

You obviously have forgotten about the victims in this case.

He wouldn't be facing the death penalty without killing 2 people beforehand.


But I agree, they should stop with the 'humane injections' bullshit.
Get it over with as fast as possible.

Bring back old sparky? I'd rather see the state carry out the sentence of death in a quick and just manner, Firing Squad, Electric Chair, Hanging, or Gas Chamber...

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[PublicAnimalNo9]

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Bart is a fan of the guillotine.

I suppose I haven't put much thought into it, but I believe helium suffocation is the cleanest and most clinically professional way. We're running out of that stuff though.

Nitrogen works just as effectively.

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