[ShepherdsDog]

The West Bank Jordanians have been left alone for the most part because they've left the Israelis alone. Israel completely pulled out of the Gaza Strip, yet the Gaza Egyptians continue to lob rockets haphazardly into Israel. No one feels sorry for the idiot that gets bit poking the junk yard dog, so why feel sorry for the Gazans? Same scenario.

[BRAH]

peck420 peck420:

Yup...the Jews are angels in this region... .

There is no good guy in this debate, there is only asshat and dickface...choose your sides accordingly.

And he we go, Israelis are not killing innocent children for the hell of it!

[martin14]

Goober911 Goober911:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Fixed that for you.

No need to fix anything. Let me clear up a few things.

I support Israel.

I support a 2 state agreement- I support Israeli troops on the Jordanian border.

I support Jerusalem as a capital of Israel and Palestine.

I support Israel & defensible borders.

I support an agreement where if Terror attacks take place, if nothing is done, then Israel has the right to capture, kill these people.

Same would apply to Israelis that attack Arabs.
Ceptin they would go to another country for trial.

If (from Palestine) captured then tried in Israel or a Western countries court based upon the rule of Law.

I do not support the present govt throwing up roadblocks to an agreement.

Let me know if you find any Arab with power in Palestine who would agree to that.

And therein you will find your problem..

[N_Fiddledog]

Israeli jets strike 34 targets in Gaza Strip

[BartSimpson]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

The West Bank Jordanians have been left alone for the most part because they've left the Israelis alone. Israel completely pulled out of the Gaza Strip, yet the Gaza Egyptians continue to lob rockets haphazardly into Israel. No one feels sorry for the idiot that gets bit poking the junk yard dog, so why feel sorry for the Gazans? Same scenario.

There are no 'Gaza Egyptians'. Gaza is not part of Egypt and the fact that Egypt kills anyone trying to illegally enter Egypt from Gaza would underline this fact.

[BartSimpson]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Israeli jets strike 34 targets in Gaza Strip

Well, that just puts a smile on my face!

[ShepherdsDog]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

The West Bank Jordanians have been left alone for the most part because they've left the Israelis alone. Israel completely pulled out of the Gaza Strip, yet the Gaza Egyptians continue to lob rockets haphazardly into Israel. No one feels sorry for the idiot that gets bit poking the junk yard dog, so why feel sorry for the Gazans? Same scenario.

There are no 'Gaza Egyptians'. Gaza is not part of Egypt and the fact that Egypt kills anyone trying to illegally enter Egypt from Gaza would underline this fact.

Gaza was part of Egypt, just as the Jordanians had officially annexed the West Bank in 1950, after initially occupying it in 1948. The Israelis only occupied it after the Six Day War in 1967. The people there saw themselves as Jordanians, not 'Palestinians', a term that had been used to refer to the Jews originally. Gaza was occupied by the Egyptians in 1959 until Israel seized it and the Sinai, after it repelled the Arabs in the Six Day War in 1967.

[Goober911]

No need to fix anything. Let me clear up a few things.

I support Israel.

I support a 2 state agreement- I support Israeli troops on the Jordanian border.

I support Jerusalem as a capital of Israel and Palestine.

I support Israel & defensible borders.

I support an agreement where if Terror attacks take place, if nothing is done, then Israel has the right to capture, kill these people.

Same would apply to Israelis that attack Arabs.
Ceptin they would go to another country for trial.

If (from Palestine) captured then tried in Israel or a Western countries court based upon the rule of Law.

I do not support the present govt throwing up roadblocks to an agreement.[/quote]

martin14 martin14:

Let me know if you find any Arab with power in Palestine who would agree to that.

And therein you will find your problem..

And the same can be applied to the present Israeli govt.

[N_Fiddledog]

Goober911 Goober911:

And the same can be applied to the present Israeli govt.

Which of your 6 points do you think the Israeli's would not support?

[ShepherdsDog]

As I've said before, the current Israeli government is the price the Arabs must pay for not refusing play ball with the past Israeli governments. They(Arabs) never miss a chance to screw themselves over.

[Goober911]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Goober911 Goober911:

And the same can be applied to the present Israeli govt.

Which of your 6 points do you think the Israeli's would not support?

I take it this is what you are referring to?
Had to modify these a tad as they were my opinion,
If so these would be the ones.

Jerusalem as a capital of Israel and Palestine.

Same would apply to Israelis that attack Arabs in Palestine lands.
Ceptin they would go to another country for trial.

If (from Palestine)attacks Israeli's, captured then tried in a Western countries court based upon the rule of Law.
No one trusts the other for a fair trial.
Arab citizens of Israel attacking Israelis in Israel tried in Israel

[N_Fiddledog]

Goober911 Goober911:

Jerusalem as a capital of Israel and Palestine.

If we're talking Bibi that does seem unlikely. Some say they've gotten signals that say, " Divide Jerusalem? Maybe", but I doubt it.

Is it really that great an idea though?

$1:

Same would apply to Israelis that attack Arabs.
Ceptin they would go to another country for trial.

If (from Palestine) captured then tried in a Western countries court based upon the rule of Law.

Yeah that one would be tricky all right. Finding an impartial judge the Israelis could trust would be a problem. Also what the actual rules of engagement would be. In general there would have to be complexities. But when you consider the concessions the Israelis have already agreed to, I'm not sure something like that with certain riders might not be possible. From the Israeli side anyway.

[Goober911]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Goober911 Goober911:

Jerusalem as a capital of Israel and Palestine.

If we're talking Bibi that does seem unlikely. Some say they've gotten signals that say, " Divide Jerusalem? Maybe", but I doubt it.

Is it really that great an idea though?

$1:

Same would apply to Israelis that attack Arabs.
Ceptin they would go to another country for trial.

If (from Palestine) captured then tried in a Western countries court based upon the rule of Law.

Yeah that one would be tricky all right. Finding an impartial judge the Israelis could trust would be a problem. Also what the actual rules of engagement would be. But when you consider the concessions the Israelis have already agreed to, I'm not sure something like that with certain riders might not be possible. From the Israeli side anyway.

The Capital has to be for both. Otherwise a no go due to the Al-Aqsa Mosque, Dome of the rock and the Temple Mount. And yes a Judicial system would be tricky as hell. Take the hate mongers away.
Arab countries to accept the influx of Palestinians from all UN camps, and granting full citizenship in the country that takes them. Camps are a festering wound.

The Arabs have used & abused the Palestinians enough, time for them to step up to the plate.

[martin14]

Goober911 Goober911:

Arab countries to accept the influx of Palestinians from all UN camps, and granting full citizenship in the country that takes them. Camps are a festering wound.

The Arabs have used & abused the Palestinians enough, time for them to step up to the plate.

The Arab countries haven't done this since 1948, what makes you think they will change
their mind now ?

[Goober911]

martin14 martin14:

Goober911 Goober911:

Arab countries to accept the influx of Palestinians from all UN camps, and granting full citizenship in the country that takes them. Camps are a festering wound.

The Arabs have used & abused the Palestinians enough, time for them to step up to the plate.

The Arab countries haven't done this since 1948, what makes you think they will change
their mind now ?

Reason you get the Saudi Govt to propose and back it.
They wield the power and have the money.