[sandorski]

This isn't about Religious Freedom, it is about using Religion for the purpose of Oppression. Disgusting.

Corporations are not People, they can not hold a Religious view.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

The Supreme Court made the right ruling, for the wrong reasons.

[BartSimpson]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

BTW is it worth remembering that today's ruling bases its decision on an act passed into law in 1993 The Religious Freedom Restoration Act by Democrat President Bill Clinton.

Don't forget that in 1993 both Houses of Congress were controlled by those religious extremist Democrats.


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And @all: A point of clarification: Hobby Lobby already provided and will continue to provide to their employees sixteen different types of birth control. What was at stake in this case was that the Obama Administration wanted to force Hobby Lobby to pay for abortifacents like the so-called 'Morning After' pill, IUD's, and any other type of abortifacent that causes a fertilized egg to be aborted.

[BartSimpson]

sandorski sandorski:

Corporations are not People, they can not hold a Religious view.

Corporations are held by people and those people can hold a religious view.

[raydan]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

Corporations are not People, they can not hold a Religious view.

Corporations are held by people and those people can hold a religious view.

My car is an atheist.

[N_Fiddledog]

sandorski sandorski:

This isn't about Religious Freedom, it is about using Religion for the purpose of Oppression. Disgusting.

Corporations are not People, they can not hold a Religious view.

As I understand the ruling it's not for "Corporations". It's for small, family owned businesses.

http://qctimes.com/news/local/local-own ... 302bf.html

And who exactly is being oppressed here? Hobby lobby already financed birth control. They do not want to force their employees to do anything new here. They simply said we won't be forced to pay for anything new that in their minds would abort a fetus.

Apparently there's some stuff you can buy at Wal Mart that costs about 8 bucks. Hobby Lobby employees are comparatively well paid. How are they being oppressed by being told they have to pay for their own abortifacients if they want them?

If Hobby Lobby had been forced to buy stuff against their constitutionally guaranteed rights to religious conscience wouldn't it have been them who were being oppressed? Perhaps we need to to revisit the meaning of the word "oppressed".

[sandorski]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

sandorski sandorski:

This isn't about Religious Freedom, it is about using Religion for the purpose of Oppression. Disgusting.

Corporations are not People, they can not hold a Religious view.

As I understand the ruling it's not for "Corporations". It's for small, family owned businesses.

http://qctimes.com/news/local/local-own ... 302bf.html

And who exactly is being oppressed here? Hobby lobby already financed birth control. They do not want to force their employees to do anything new here. They simply said we won't be forced to pay for anything new that in their minds would abort a fetus.

Apparently there's some stuff you can buy at Wal Mart that costs about 8 bucks. Hobby Lobby employees are comparatively well paid. How are they being oppressed by being told they have to pay for their own abortifacients if they want them?

If Hobby Lobby had been forced to buy stuff against their constitutionally guaranteed rights to religious conscience wouldn't it have been them who were being oppressed? Perhaps we need to to revisit the meaning of the word "oppressed".

Size doesn't matter. It is still just a legal construction and not a Human Being.

[sandorski]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

Corporations are not People, they can not hold a Religious view.

Corporations are held by people and those people can hold a religious view.

moot

[Thanos]

sandorski sandorski:

Size doesn't matter. It is still just a legal construction and not a Human Being.

[redhatmamma]

Hobby Lobby pays it's employees twice the min. wage with a generous benefit package. The ruling is fairly narrow in that it only applies to family businesses, not to giants such as Walmart.

Considering H.L. pays for 16/20 contraceptives they are not saying they won't pay for birth control. They are not wanting to pay for 4 types of b/c they and others consider to be 'abortifacients'. It's debatable and arguably they are not, but they and many people do believe that. IMO it's ridiculous but they believe it and don't want to pay for it... Actually some people believe the 'pill' is also an 'abortifaciant' that's how extreme they can get.

Even Hilary Clinton misunderstood the ruling.


BTW, the S.C. rules that corporations are 'persons'

[xerxes]

FYI, family business means that it's only owned by a handful of people. Walmart falls under that legal definition.

[BartSimpson]

sandorski sandorski:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

Corporations are not People, they can not hold a Religious view.

Corporations are held by people and those people can hold a religious view.

moot

According to the US Supreme Court it's not 'moot', so...

[BartSimpson]

xerxes xerxes:

FYI, family business means that it's only owned by a handful of people. Walmart falls under that legal definition.

That's true. Although I doubt much of a case can be made for the Walton family having any sort of religious values.

[xerxes]

I'm pretty sure they worship this: $$$

[herbie]

Yeah until somehow they decide companies don't have to pay for birth control for employees who are unmarried. And then no health coverage for employees who smoke or they deem 'too fat'. Then for those who hang glide or scuba dive, etc. etc.
Slippery slope