[Jabberwalker]

... like a big, woman's blouse ...

[Public_Domain]

[Xort]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

Only Muslims cat call and make sexist remarks?

From personal anecdotal evidence... Muslim men aren't alone.

I'm sure people of all genders and religious beliefs make cat calls, but we could collect information and form a study on the topic to see to what degree.

Although given the statistics for sexual crimes in the EU, and if we apply feminist theory, I think we will find Muslim men being over represented in our study.

Brenda Brenda:

Better yet... Muslim men aren't any better or worse than any other man...

Well data from around the world seems to indicate otherwise.

But I'm not making my statements based off what I want to believe or how I feel, just extrapolations from reported crimes when the data is presented with the proper breakdowns.

Although I am aware that my insistence on using facts is sexist and privileged, as women place greater importance on their feelings over facts then men. I should be willing to grant the feelings of women greater weight when matched against facts.

I guess I should have put a trigger warning at the start due to my privileging of facts and statistical data over feelings and anecdotal evidence.

[andyt]

So let's see your data on Muslim vs non-Muslim catcalls.

[Brenda]

Yeah, no kidding!! All I see is Xort stating opinions as fact and calling women emotional dumb asses who cannot see fact from fiction.

[Xort]

andyt andyt:

So let's see your data on Muslim vs non-Muslim catcalls.

Nice to see you still haven't learned how to understand what you read yet.

What I can offer you is a break down of sexual crimes by background, and scaled for population membership in the nation.

As I suggested to Public_Domain we would need to author a study on catcalls by group.

Brenda Brenda:

Yeah, no kidding!! All I see is Xort stating opinions as fact and calling women emotional dumb asses who cannot see fact from fiction.

Emotional reasoning is just as valid as factual reasoning, I learned that from a gender studies class. Women give diverse reasoning better than men because they can deal with non factual beliefs better. While men are mostly stuck dealing with issues as being one or another as they view the facts, women know how to let other sources of information, like how they feel about issues guide them to answered that are not binary.

[N_Fiddledog]

andyt andyt:

So let's see your data on Muslim vs non-Muslim catcalls.

I got the impression he was calling for such a study, not saying they exist.

Isn't he saying there seems to be an increased percentage of sexual assaults coming from the Muslim population in Europe, so let's test the feminist theory such things are connected to catcalls, but doing a study on them and seeing if the two things correlate?

[MeganC]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

What a girly thing to do.

I'm offended!

(Where's my million dollars?)

[Brenda]

Xort Xort:

andyt andyt:

So let's see your data on Muslim vs non-Muslim catcalls.

Nice to see you still haven't learned how to understand what you read yet.

What I can offer you is a break down of sexual crimes by background, and scaled for population membership in the nation.

I don't want to be a bitch, but a wolf whistle is NOT a sexual crime. Don't over dramatize a compliment. Thanks.

$1:

As I suggested to Public_Domain we would need to author a study on catcalls by group.

I don't think you would see a lot of difference between lets say Italians and Greeks, and North African muslims.

$1:

Brenda Brenda:

Yeah, no kidding!! All I see is Xort stating opinions as fact and calling women emotional dumb asses who cannot see fact from fiction.

Emotional reasoning is just as valid as factual reasoning, I learned that from a gender studies class. Women give diverse reasoning better than men because they can deal with non factual beliefs better. While men are mostly stuck dealing with issues as being one or another as they view the facts, women know how to let other sources of information, like how they feel about issues guide them to answered that are not binary.

I am sure it is, but you are also claiming women cannot differentiate between facts and emotion. That, my dear, would be a crime in Belgium, because I see it as a sexist insult.

[MeganC]

Brenda Brenda:

Yeah, no kidding!! All I see is Xort stating opinions as fact and calling women emotional dumb asses who cannot see fact from fiction.

A lot of women ARE emotional dumb asses who cannot see fact from fiction! I am sometimes and so are you and I know because I've seen you get mad at differnet people on here about things that only exist in your mind. Women a lot of times don't separate FEELINGS from FACT and sometimes we FEEL like we've been insulted or whatever and the FACT is that nothing happened at all.

Smart women know when to step back and look at what was said. Stupid emotional bitches double-down and cry like babies.

[ShepherdsDog]

[Brenda]

MeganC MeganC:

Brenda Brenda:

Yeah, no kidding!! All I see is Xort stating opinions as fact and calling women emotional dumb asses who cannot see fact from fiction.

A lot of women ARE emotional dumb asses who cannot see fact from fiction! I am sometimes and so are you and I know because I've seen you get mad at differnet people on here about things that only exist in your mind. Women a lot of times don't separate FEELINGS from FACT and sometimes we FEEL like we've been insulted or whatever and the FACT is that nothing happened at all.

And I am pretty sure you know the background story between the person I bitch at and me, right?
There's no need to get personal, Megan. Thanks.

$1:

Smart women know when to step back and look at what was said. Stupid emotional bitches double-down and cry like babies.

Please take your own advice and step back here. Don't try to make this a personal thing that is way out of your league in the first place.

[MeganC]

Brenda Brenda:

MeganC MeganC:

Brenda Brenda:

Yeah, no kidding!! All I see is Xort stating opinions as fact and calling women emotional dumb asses who cannot see fact from fiction.

A lot of women ARE emotional dumb asses who cannot see fact from fiction! I am sometimes and so are you and I know because I've seen you get mad at differnet people on here about things that only exist in your mind. Women a lot of times don't separate FEELINGS from FACT and sometimes we FEEL like we've been insulted or whatever and the FACT is that nothing happened at all.

And I am pretty sure you know the background story between the person I bitch at and me, right?
There's no need to get personal, Megan. Thanks.

$1:

Smart women know when to step back and look at what was said. Stupid emotional bitches double-down and cry like babies.

Please take your own advice and step back here. Don't try to make this a personal thing that is way out of your league in the first place.

I've seen you do this to more than one person but yeah I know you and Regina don't like each other.

[Brenda]

I do not understand what this has to do with this thread.
Nor do I see how this is your problem, or where this is coming from.

[andyt]

Xort Xort:

andyt andyt:

So let's see your data on Muslim vs non-Muslim catcalls.

Nice to see you still haven't learned how to understand what you read yet.

What I can offer you is a break down of sexual crimes by background, and scaled for population membership in the nation.

As I suggested to Public_Domain we would need to author a study on catcalls by group.

So why are you dragging sexual crimes into this? Are you saying you agree with the Belgians that catcalls should be criminalized? Or that they are the slippery slope to sex crimes? or WTF?