[wildrosegirl]

Dumb asses! How the hell can you let dough rise in the oven if the bulb isn't chucking heat??!!!! Apparently I'll be wiping out Cambodian Tire tomorrow.

[Caelon]

wildrosegirl wildrosegirl:

Dumb asses! How the hell can you let dough rise in the oven if the bulb isn't chucking heat??!!!! Apparently I'll be wiping out Cambodian Tire tomorrow.

Hmm Hmm. You turn the oven on for a couple of minutes and then turn it off. The residual heat will let the bread rise. Of course your method may be better.

[wildrosegirl]

Caelon Caelon:

wildrosegirl wildrosegirl:

Dumb asses! How the hell can you let dough rise in the oven if the bulb isn't chucking heat??!!!! Apparently I'll be wiping out Cambodian Tire tomorrow.

Hmm Hmm. You turn the oven on for a couple of minutes and then turn it off. The residual heat will let the bread rise. Of course your method may be better.

Nah... Not nearly as consistent. Gotta have a good old, heat chucking bulb for good buns.
And what about Easy Bake ovens? They've killed a classic toy..... Shameful.

[herbie]

I thought they stopped selling the Easy Bake oven because little German girls kept putting GI Joo dolls in them...

[N_Fiddledog]

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[Benn]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

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andyt andyt:

LED's AFAIK, require retrofitting, they don't just screw into an incandescent socket.

Yes, they can. And there are LED retrofit bulbs for pretty much every fixture, from incandescent, florescent and halogen types to outdoor floodlights.

And some can be 'tuned' to any colour you want.

http://www.gizmag.com/philips-hue-led-w ... ulb/24784/

Yup I'm sitting next to one in my living room lamp right now. Bought with no need to retrofit and tinted to match the more soft white glow of an incandescent. The difference in the colour and tint is hardly noticeable.

As far as CFLs go I have to replace them at least once a year. They don't seem to live up to the life cycle claimed on the box and it is not like I leave them on all the time. Plus if you have not had them on for awhile they take a few moments to reach maximum brightness which I find annoying. LEDs are pricey but got bright in an instant and last longer and don't have the gas the CFLs have. Eventually all mine will be soft white LEDs.

[Benn]

wildrosegirl wildrosegirl:

Dumb asses! How the hell can you let dough rise in the oven if the bulb isn't chucking heat??!!!! Apparently I'll be wiping out Cambodian Tire tomorrow.

They will still be making incandescent for fridges and ovens.

[saturn_656]

Benn Benn:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

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andyt andyt:

LED's AFAIK, require retrofitting, they don't just screw into an incandescent socket.

Yes, they can. And there are LED retrofit bulbs for pretty much every fixture, from incandescent, florescent and halogen types to outdoor floodlights.

And some can be 'tuned' to any colour you want.

http://www.gizmag.com/philips-hue-led-w ... ulb/24784/

Yup I'm sitting next to one in my living room lamp right now. Bought with no need to retrofit and tinted to match the more soft white glow of an incandescent. The difference in the colour and tint is hardly noticeable.

As far as CFLs go I have to replace them at least once a year. They don't seem to live up to the life cycle claimed on the box and it is not like I leave them on all the time. Plus if you have not had them on for awhile they take a few moments to reach maximum brightness which I find annoying. LEDs are pricey but got bright in an instant and last longer and don't have the gas the CFLs have. Eventually all mine will be soft white LEDs.

From what I understand of CFL's the more on/off cycles you have the quicker the bulb will die (similar to incandescents). Also the bulbs will die sooner when upside down as opposed to right side up.

I friggin' hate CFL's. I wish LED bulbs were reasonably priced.

[Thanos]

The SUN columnists are being so reasonable about this issue that they're almost at the point where they demand someone send a severed horse head to Stephen Harper in response to and protest of the infamy of the Great Lightbulb Hitlerfication. Christ Jesus, these one-note dogwhistling idiots never stop, do they?

[ShepherdsDog]

I use CFLs in the bedrooms, but they are full spectrum....and damned pricey

[Benn]

[quote="saturn_656From what I understand of CFL's the more on/off cycles you have the quicker the bulb will die (similar to incandescents). Also the bulbs will die sooner when upside down as opposed to right side up.

I friggin' hate CFL's. I wish LED bulbs were reasonably priced.[/quote]

Thinking about where the bulbs I replace the most are this actually seems accurate. Too bad I have not yet seen LED in the round bathroom vanity bulb size, that I've seen yet.

[Jonny_C]

You can buy warm white CFL's, so no issue there. The colour temperature of CFL's is fine, if you buy the right ones.

CFL's don't give off heat? You ever try unscrewing a glowing 23W CFL bulb? I can burn my fingers on mine.

I agree with those who have stated that the incandescent bulb doesn't waste energy during the times when a house has to be heated. Heat thrown by bulbs means less heat needed from furnace or heaters. All of the ceiling fixtures in the main areas of my house are fan-and-light assemblies, so that warm air near the ceiling is circulated.

Now here's something I don't get, and if I sound like Homer Simpson that's OK, as long as you can explain...

Take two electric heaters - one from the good old days of a glowing heating coil behind a grille, and one a "high-efficiency" quartz heater. Why should a 500 watt quartz heater be giving you more heat for the wattage than a 500 watt glowing coil? How does the glowing coil "lose" a significant amount of energy that the quartz heater doesn't?

And for that matter, is replacing a standard baseboard heater with a "high efficiency" baseboard heater just a scam? What does the HE heater do that the standard heater doesn't?

[PluggyRug]

Jonny_C Jonny_C:

You can buy warm white CFL's, so no issue there. The colour temperature of CFL's is fine, if you buy the right ones.

CFL's don't give off heat? You ever try unscrewing a glowing 23W CFL bulb? I can burn my fingers on mine.

I agree with those who have stated that the incandescent bulb doesn't waste energy during the times when a house has to be heated. Heat thrown by bulbs means less heat needed from furnace or heaters. All of the ceiling fixtures in the main areas of my house are fan-and-light assemblies, so that warm air near the ceiling is circulated.

Now here's something I don't get, and if I sound like Homer Simpson that's OK, as long as you can explain...

Take two electric heaters - one from the good old days of a glowing heating coil behind a grille, and one a "high-efficiency" quartz heater. Why should a 500 watt quartz heater be giving you more heat for the wattage than a 500 watt glowing coil? How does the glowing coil "lose" a significant amount of energy that the quartz heater doesn't?

And for that matter, is replacing a standard baseboard heater with a "high efficiency" baseboard heater just a scam? What does the HE heater do that the standard heater doesn't?

Scam.... it takes the same amount of electrical energy to produce the same amount of heat whatever the medium for energy transfer. The only difference is the amount of time it takes for the process to occur. If "work" is required to perform the energy transfer (such as a fan), then the energy input is higher for the same amount of heat output as a heater without fan.

[Jonny_C]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

Scam.... it takes the same amount of electrical energy to produce the same amount of heat whatever the medium for energy transfer. The only difference is the amount of time it takes for the process to occur.

Thanks, PR, that's the way it seems to me.

I did expect there would be more discussion on whether this was true. There seem to be such high expectations for "state-of-the-art" electrical heating.