[Brenda]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Brenda Brenda:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

I get it now, when you do it it's coming from an informed, unbiased position but when others(that you don't really like) do it is as kissing. Good to know for future posts.

Just for my own info, which one is the ass kisser in this thread, you or andy?

Assumption 1: "others (that you don't really like)"
Tell me, how do you know who I like and who I don't like?

Yes it is an assumption, based directly on who you disagree with consistently versus those you never have issues with.

You think I don't like people because our opinions differ?
I'm devastated I didn't think I came across as that shallow

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Assumption 2: "informed, unbiased position".
You assume I come from an unbiased position. I always state my opinion, you can hardly get it any more biased.
If I were completely unbiased, I would post facts backed up with studies and peer reviews.

I was being facetious.

(oopsie, sowwy )

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You sound very much like a very close friend of mine, who I adore and love to death. He has one big problem. He never owns his shit. Are you sure you are not him?

I have often admitted my faults and offered the appropriate apologies when required. So in reality, I am nothing like this friend of yours.

Meh, you both blame your lack of comprehension on others
I always tell that I am only responsible for what I say, not for what he understands

[desertdude]

And I thought my boo only had eyes for me !

Stay away you hear, you nasty dutch skank

[Brenda]

desertdude desertdude:

And I thought my boo only had eyes for me !

Stay away you hear, you nasty dutch skank

Bahahahaha
If ya ain't Dutch, ya ain't much! Now top that, Dude!

[Curtman]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

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He ridiculed politicians and parties who, he said, approve of gays and lesbians just to win "four or five additional votes."

This much I'll concede to the little freak. He's spot on right that some politicians support gay rights in public while utterly abhoring them in private and it is done just to pander to the gay lobby for votes and money.

And some of them harvest the Internet to compile lists, and grovel privately via email rather than do it publicly where their fellow Harperites might see..

Kenney’s office plucked emails from petition to target gays

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Erickson says he has mixed feelings about Kenney’s use of the petition he created to build an emailing database of people interested in gay immigration issues.

He says he never had any response from Kenney’s office last year, when Alvaro faced deportation.

“To be ignored for the year, then to get a piece of propaganda, is disrespectful,” he said.
...
The Conservatives have targeted written messages at minority communities in the past, most notably using direct mail lists to send out greetings to Jewish voters on religious holidays.

Some Jews were perplexed to receive Rosh Hashanah greeting cards from Prime Minister Stephen Harper in 2007. They were not Conservative voters or donors and, like the gay and lesbian recipients of Kenney’s email, wondered how the party got their addresses.
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“I didn’t live through the Second World War, but I’ve read enough and heard enough to know that the thought of a list of Jewish people makes people cringe,” said one recipient at the time.

[SprCForr]

Amadinajad is an odious individual in charge of a repressive regime and anything that comes out of his mouth is IMO garbage.

[bootlegga]

martin14 martin14:

OK, imawhackjob is President and sets policy for the country.

Ours are nutters in the woods. Saying it is one thing,
having the political power to do it is another.

Yeah, it's a good thing that the US doesn't have any politicians at any level who oppose gay marriage and that those opposed to it are not allowed to vote in referenda on the same issue...oh wait, some do and they are.

[EyeBrock]

Come on boots. Comparing religious and lifestyle freedoms in the US and Iran as even being similar is disingenuous.

Martin hit it spot on.

Iran is a state-sponsored theocratic dictatorship.

Only the most partisan lefty-yank hater would take the US’s freedom of speech and expression provisions and compare them with the gay-hating terror promoters of Tehran. Then touting them as having a moral equivalent in the US Christian Right.

Very Toronto Star and Guardian of you.

[DanSC]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Yeah, it's a good thing that the US doesn't have any politicians at any level who oppose gay marriage and that those opposed to it are not allowed to vote in referenda on the same issue...oh wait, some do and they are.

The debate in the USA is if legally recognized same-sex unions should be called marriages. I think the debate is silly, but it is found in the USA, Australia, and the United Kingdom. Actually, the USA is more progressive than Australia and the UK, as marriage licenses are given to same-sex couples in some states.

The debate in Iran is about if people who have even thought about a homosexual act should be beheaded, hung, or burned at the stake.

[Brenda]

DanSC DanSC:

bootlegga bootlegga:

Yeah, it's a good thing that the US doesn't have any politicians at any level who oppose gay marriage and that those opposed to it are not allowed to vote in referenda on the same issue...oh wait, some do and they are.

The debate in the USA is if legally recognized same-sex unions should be called marriages. I think the debate is silly, but it is found in the USA, Australia, and the United Kingdom. Actually, the USA is more progressive than Australia and the UK, as marriage licenses are given to same-sex couples in some states.

The debate in Iran is about if people who have even thought about a homosexual act should be beheaded, hung, or burned at the stake.

The debate between progressive people if same sex unions should be called marriages. For a lot of people in the US, homosexuality is "a sin", "dirty", "a choice", "not open for discussion", "not in my family" and is still a taboo. Just because you will be locked up if you kill someone because of it, does not mean people don't think about doing that. There's a topic on here that mentions separate schools for gays. So, yeah, it is still an issue here.

Although I agree that the Middle Eastern ideas are disproportionate, don't tell me some people in the West don't think the same way.

(as long as victims of "legitimate rape" have the ability to shut their body down and not become pregnant... Come on now)

[bootlegga]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Come on boots. Comparing religious and lifestyle freedoms in the US and Iran as even being similar is disingenuous.

Martin hit it spot on.

Iran is a state-sponsored theocratic dictatorship.

Only the most partisan lefty-yank hater would take the US’s freedom of speech and expression provisions and compare them with the gay-hating terror promoters of Tehran. Then touting them as having a moral equivalent in the US Christian Right.

Very Toronto Star and Guardian of you.

Please, Martin specifically said that the only anti-gay people in the USA are a fringe movement, where you and I both know there are plenty of politicians, voted in and supported by a substantial portion of the population, who oppose anything gay people want, not just the right to marry each other.

I don't agree with anything that crazy asshole in Iran says, but Martin's post was total bullshit and you know it.

Here's Michelle Bachman on gay people;

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/mi ... 6/02/21233

Here's Rick Santorum on gays;

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/ri ... 6/06/21448

Here's SArah Palin, former VP candidate defending her daughter's use of anti-gay slurs;

http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin/iowa/ ... ad,9894812

Yep, you're totally right. As Martin argues, there are no politicians that are anti-gay, and only a handful of wackos hiding in the woods who support them...

[martin14]

bootlegga bootlegga:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Come on boots. Comparing religious and lifestyle freedoms in the US and Iran as even being similar is disingenuous.

Martin hit it spot on.

Iran is a state-sponsored theocratic dictatorship.

Only the most partisan lefty-yank hater would take the US’s freedom of speech and expression provisions and compare them with the gay-hating terror promoters of Tehran. Then touting them as having a moral equivalent in the US Christian Right.

Very Toronto Star and Guardian of you.

Please, Martin specifically said that the only anti-gay people in the USA are a fringe movement, where you and I both know there are plenty of politicians, voted in and supported by a substantial portion of the population, who oppose anything gay people want, not just the right to marry each other.

any of them calling for stonings or executions for thinking about it,
never mind doing it ?

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I don't agree with anything that crazy asshole in Iran says, but Martin's post was total bullshit and you know it.

So happy and quick to make it personal.. you do quite a bit of that these days.

[bootlegga]

martin14 martin14:

bootlegga bootlegga:

Please, Martin specifically said that the only anti-gay people in the USA are a fringe movement, where you and I both know there are plenty of politicians, voted in and supported by a substantial portion of the population, who oppose anything gay people want, not just the right to marry each other.

any of them calling for stonings or executions for thinking about it,
never mind doing it ?

Did you say that in your original post - no you did not. You implied that people here are far more gay friendly than they really are and didn't like getting called on it.

http://www.youthprideri.org/Resources/S ... fault.aspx

Yeah, that's progress - we don't kill them ourselves, instead we just ostracize them and push them to commit/attempt suicide!

martin14 martin14:

So happy and quick to make it personal.. you do quite a bit of that these days.

Pot, meet kettle...

[martin14]

I didn't imply anything Boots, that's just you trying to put words into my mouth... again.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

The latest tack coming from the religious far right in the US is to spread the most vile lies about gay people. They finally figured out that arguing Bible verses to non-believers and threatening them with Hell wasn't working. Now, they use pseudo-scientific bullshit studies to "prove" that all homosexuals are also pedophiles.
Last time I checked, labelling someone a pedophile who isn't, is NOT protected free speech.