[Hyack]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Hyack Hyack:

In this case the Saudi officials insist she must follow proper Islamic dress code when she competes in judo and threatens to withdraw if she is made to remove her hijab.

It'd be awesome if one or both of these women applied to the UK for asylum from the asylum back home.

The thing is, Wodjan Shaherkani apparently says she will not participate without the hijab. The other woman, Sarah Attar, a track and field athlete has both Saudi Arabian and American nationality and is currently a student at Pepperdine University in Los Angeles, but nothing has been heard from her about her attire, although she also has to be properly dressed.

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On 30 July 2012, Shaherkhani said that she would withdraw from the event if she was not permitted to wear her hijab during bouts. Her father (who often speaks for her, partially because she does not know English) clarified that he wanted his daughter to compete, and that they wanted to make "new history for Saudi's women," but that she would not participate without a hijab

[Alta_redneck]

I say let her wear it, now it becomes part of her gear and her opponents should be able to grab it just like they do the judo jackets and take her down.

Her choice.

[Hyack]

Another tidbit, neither of these women qualified for the Olympics, they were both "selected" by Saudi officials to fill the spots as the International Olympic Committee had threatened to ban Saudi Arabia from the Games unless they allowed women to compete.

[Brenda]

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:

I say let her wear it, now it becomes part of her gear and her opponents should be able to grab it just like they do the judo jackets and take her down.

Her choice.

Would you agree with competitors grabbing each others hair?
Women can wear long hair, why not a hijab?

[saturn_656]

Brenda Brenda:

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:

I say let her wear it, now it becomes part of her gear and her opponents should be able to grab it just like they do the judo jackets and take her down.

Her choice.

Would you agree with competitors grabbing each others hair?
Women can wear long hair, why not a hijab?

Hijab is an article of clothing. Your hair is a part of your body, you don't "wear" it unless it is a wig.

[Brenda]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

Brenda Brenda:

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:

I say let her wear it, now it becomes part of her gear and her opponents should be able to grab it just like they do the judo jackets and take her down.

Her choice.

Would you agree with competitors grabbing each others hair?
Women can wear long hair, why not a hijab?

Hijab is an article of clothing. Your hair is a part of your body, you don't "wear" it unless it is a wig.

There are several sports played with a hijab. Just because it is a piece of clothing, is no reason for grabbing it.
I doubt pulling down pants is allowed.

[saturn_656]

Brenda Brenda:

There are several sports played with a hijab. Just because it is a piece of clothing, is no reason for grabbing it.
I doubt pulling down pants is allowed.

When I was younger I participated in martial arts, and we could grab pants.

Pulling down their pants intentionally? No, not allowed.

Some people did, in a struggle, damn near lose their shorts. Completely unintentional.

[Brenda]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

Brenda Brenda:

There are several sports played with a hijab. Just because it is a piece of clothing, is no reason for grabbing it.
I doubt pulling down pants is allowed.

When I was younger I participated in martial arts, and we could grab pants.

Pulling down their pants intentionally? No, not allowed.

Some people did, in a struggle, damn near lose their shorts. Completely unintentional.

So what is the problem with an hijab then? When grabbed, fault. When hair is grabbed, it is a fault too.
Is it the choking hazard? There are ways around that. People wear necklaces too (yeah, one of the stupidest things I see, jewelry in sports, but whatever).
Women wear t-shirts underneath their jackets, as opposed to men. What is the problem with this? Why can't it just be an option?

[Alta_redneck]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

Brenda Brenda:

There are several sports played with a hijab. Just because it is a piece of clothing, is no reason for grabbing it.
I doubt pulling down pants is allowed.

When I was younger I participated in martial arts, and we could grab pants.

Pulling down their pants intentionally? No, not allowed.

Some people did, in a struggle, damn near lose their shorts. Completely unintentional.

You argue with her, I know better.

[Brenda]

[saturn_656]

Brenda Brenda:

So what is the problem with an hijab then? When grabbed, fault. When hair is grabbed, it is a fault too.
Is it the choking hazard? There are ways around that. People wear necklaces too (yeah, one of the stupidest things I see, jewelry in sports, but whatever).
Women wear t-shirts underneath their jackets, as opposed to men. What is the problem with this? Why can't it just be an option?

Depending on what type of headgear she is wearing, it may not even have to be grabbed to become dislodged. She shouldn't be surprised if at some point it comes out of place and the world sees her head on television (that being what they are trying to avoid).

[saturn_656]

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:

saturn_656 saturn_656:

Brenda Brenda:

There are several sports played with a hijab. Just because it is a piece of clothing, is no reason for grabbing it.
I doubt pulling down pants is allowed.

When I was younger I participated in martial arts, and we could grab pants.

Pulling down their pants intentionally? No, not allowed.

Some people did, in a struggle, damn near lose their shorts. Completely unintentional.

You argue with her, I know better.

Even when you're right, you're wrong.

[Hyack]

Brenda Brenda:

;-)

[Tricks]

raydan raydan:

Brenda Brenda:

I don't necessarily understand the problem with the Hijab. I remember my mom wearing a scarf around her hair when she was going anywhere by bike, or a rain cap when it rained, both to protect her hair. That was never an issue.

The Burka, yeah, have a problem with that. I have a problem with ANY complete face covering. Including balaclava's and full face helmets when not riding a bike. When you get gas as a motorcyclist, take off your full face.

I worked in a bank, anybody that came in with a full-face was immediately stormed by at least 4-5 very bitchy cashiers and one pissed-off manager.

Try doing it in camo facepaint..

I thought that one through. Thank god the bank was closed.

[Brenda]

Hyack Hyack:

Brenda Brenda:

;-)

Well... DUHHHHH!!!