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andyt
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:03 am
OnTheIce OnTheIce: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: You see OTI, people do stupid shit whether they're high, drunk or sober.
This is so ridiculous. Does that negate the fact that this woman was stoned, left her baby on the roof and drove away? No. Does it negate the fact that impaired people do all sorts of weird shit? No. Stop trying to justify the woman's drug-induced actions just because you support the usage of the drug. Stop trying to use one incident to advocate for prohibition on pot. You want to make help keep pot illegal, advocate for prohibiting alcohol. No wait, that won't work either, since people don't want to give up alcohol. They'll just ask themselves why a dangerous drug like alcohol should be legal but a less harmful one like pot should remain illegal. No wait, they're already doing that. You really want to save lives, ban cigarettes. If prohibition works, that is.
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:15 am
OnTheIce OnTheIce: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: You see OTI, people do stupid shit whether they're high, drunk or sober.
This is so ridiculous. Does that negate the fact that this woman was stoned, left her baby on the roof and drove away? No. Does it negate the fact that impaired people do all sorts of weird shit? No. Stop trying to justify the woman's drug-induced actions just because you support the usage of the drug. Where the fuck am I trying to justify it? I merely pointed out that it doesn't require impairment of any sort to be stupid. Quit ignoring other facts because you have a burr up your ass about marijuana. What about andy's example of the sober driver that did the EXACT SAME THING?! I suppose you wanna blame pot for that too? 
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:20 am
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:21 am
OnTheIce OnTheIce: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: You see OTI, people do stupid shit whether they're high, drunk or sober.
This is so ridiculous. Does that negate the fact that this woman was stoned, left her baby on the roof and drove away? No. Does it negate the fact that impaired people do all sorts of weird shit? No. Stop trying to justify the woman's drug-induced actions just because you support the usage of the drug. I still don't get why you don't cry out that booze should be illegal every time a drunk driver kills someone? ![huh? [huh]](./images/smilies/icon_scratch.gif)
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Brenda
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:22 am
raydan raydan: OnTheIce OnTheIce: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: You see OTI, people do stupid shit whether they're high, drunk or sober.
This is so ridiculous. Does that negate the fact that this woman was stoned, left her baby on the roof and drove away? No. Does it negate the fact that impaired people do all sorts of weird shit? No. Stop trying to justify the woman's drug-induced actions just because you support the usage of the drug. I still don't get why you don't cry out that booze should be illegal every time a drunk driver kills someone? ![huh? [huh]](./images/smilies/icon_scratch.gif) We blame the bartender when that happens.
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:23 am
raydan raydan: I still don't get why you don't cry out that booze should be illegal every time a drunk driver kills someone? ![huh? [huh]](./images/smilies/icon_scratch.gif) Because he's a hypocrite? ![huh? [huh]](./images/smilies/icon_scratch.gif)
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OnTheIce 
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:38 am
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: Where the fuck am I trying to justify it? I merely pointed out that it doesn't require impairment of any sort to be stupid. Quit ignoring other facts because you have a burr up your ass about marijuana. Ignoring the fact that being impaired makes you just that, impaired. Yes, sober people do stupid things but impaired people take it to a new level. Stoned, drunk, whatever.
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:41 am
OnTheIce OnTheIce: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: Where the fuck am I trying to justify it? I merely pointed out that it doesn't require impairment of any sort to be stupid. Quit ignoring other facts because you have a burr up your ass about marijuana. Ignoring the fact that being impaired makes you just that, impaired. Yes, sober people do stupid things but impaired people take it to a new level. Stoned, drunk, whatever. Really. So that sober person that andy mentioned that drove off with a baby on their roof, that's just the normal level of stupid, but if yer high and do that, it's a new level of stupid? I think you've reached that level without being impaired my friend.
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andyt
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:42 am
OnTheIce OnTheIce: Ignoring the fact that being impaired makes you just that, impaired. Yes, sober people do stupid things but impaired people take it to a new level. Stoned, drunk, whatever.
Thanks for the update. We didn't know this until now. Care to compare stats for the stupid things people do on alcohol vs pot? Yet you're for keeping alcohol legal. Why? I mean prohibition on alcohol would vastly reduce the carnage, right?
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:44 am
OnTheIce OnTheIce: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: Where the fuck am I trying to justify it? I merely pointed out that it doesn't require impairment of any sort to be stupid. Quit ignoring other facts because you have a burr up your ass about marijuana. Ignoring the fact that being impaired makes you just that, impaired. Yes, sober people do stupid things but impaired people take it to a new level. Stoned, drunk, whatever. The thing you've missed is, its illegal to drive drunk or stoned under prohibition, and legalization. It should be illegal to be when caring for an infant too. You're arguing against something that isnt even relevant to the prohibition discussion.
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OnTheIce 
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:45 am
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: OnTheIce OnTheIce: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: Where the fuck am I trying to justify it? I merely pointed out that it doesn't require impairment of any sort to be stupid. Quit ignoring other facts because you have a burr up your ass about marijuana. Ignoring the fact that being impaired makes you just that, impaired. Yes, sober people do stupid things but impaired people take it to a new level. Stoned, drunk, whatever. Really. So that sober person that andy mentioned that drove off with a baby on their roof, that's just the normal level of stupid, but if yer high and do that, it's a new level of stupid? I think you've reached that level without being impaired my friend. Ah...typical. "If you don't agree with me, I'll start insulting you until you do". So because a sober person does something stupid...being impaired and doing something equally stupid negates the drug use? I get it. 
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OnTheIce 
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:46 am
Curtman Curtman: The thing you've missed is, its illegal to drive drunk or stoned under prohibition, and legalization. It should be illegal to be when caring for an infant too. You're arguing against something that isnt even relevant to the prohibition discussion. No, I'm arguing your claim that pot has no victims. Apparently it does.
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andyt
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:49 am
OnTheIce OnTheIce: Curtman Curtman: The thing you've missed is, its illegal to drive drunk or stoned under prohibition, and legalization. It should be illegal to be when caring for an infant too. You're arguing against something that isnt even relevant to the prohibition discussion. No, I'm arguing your claim that pot has no victims. Apparently it does. We've already established that aspirin has victims as well, in fact kills way more people than pot does. We gonna ban that too? So far three people have challenged you to answer why you want pot to be illegal but not alcohol, and you haven't answered. Doesn't do much for your argument, does it?
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:52 am
andyt andyt: So far three people have challenged you to answer why you want pot to be illegal but not alcohol, and you haven't answered. Doesn't do much for your argument, does it? It's easy andy, he doesn't like pot therefore it must remain illegal whereas he likes to have a drink of two so it must remain legal!
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OnTheIce 
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:58 am
2Cdo 2Cdo: andyt andyt: So far three people have challenged you to answer why you want pot to be illegal but not alcohol, and you haven't answered. Doesn't do much for your argument, does it? It's easy andy, he doesn't like pot therefore it must remain illegal whereas he likes to have a drink of two so it must remain legal! I don't drink. I have Celiac disease and can't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do any drugs. I have smoked weed when I was a teenager. I have explained numerous times my thoughts on booze/pot. I have said that I think booze should be illegal, but turning back the clock is next to impossible and allowing more drugs to be legalized for the sake of hypocrisy makes little sense to me...in my opinion.
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