[andyt]

Nah, you're not anti-social. "Demented and sad, but social."

[Zipperfish]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I'm not shocked. The History Channel has been running World at War in HD. It's been very interesting to watch the old Nazi's and their ilk sticking to their unrepentant loyalty to the monster that was their Fuhrer.

The East Germans weren't Nazis; they were communists. Th Nazis didn't like East Germany too much, because the Russians were a lot meaner to them then the West was.

[Zipperfish]

Thanos Thanos:

Who exactly among the CKA regulars has been coming out and defending the concept of a command economy?

The guys from Rammstein said something similiar. They formed the group in Leipzig just a couple of years after the Berlin Wall came down. They've said that no one in East Germany misses the police state or any of that sort of nonsense. What they, and a lot of other East Germans, got angry at was the way the east got looted and picked clean by carpetbaggers from West Germany and the United States coming in, shutting down their workplaces, and basically stealing (in typical grand ol' unregulated capitalist style) anything that wasn't tied down. For all their many undefendable flaws, the former Soviet satellite states did provide a certain level of social and economic stability, a stability that was raped to death by the usual big-business suspects. Y'know, the same ones who did the junk bond ripoff, the tech bubble free-for-all, and the mortgage-collapse atrocity. No one in East Germany misses the Stasi, but they also didn't ask for their society to get plundered and butchered by The Smartest Guys In The Room either.

But that's just me, being my usual Socialist Obama loving asshole self, defending communism and centrally-planned command economies again......

This is what I've noticed here. I've met a lot of people who grew up in east Germany. They hasten to say it sucked, but not that bad. You could find a way to live, though not prosper.

I didn't know Obamam was a socialist. I thought he was a Kenyan. h

[ShepherdsDog]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I'm not shocked. The History Channel has been running World at War in HD. It's been very interesting to watch the old Nazi's and their ilk sticking to their unrepentant loyalty to the monster that was their Fuhrer.

The East Germans weren't Nazis; they were communists. Th Nazis didn't like East Germany too much, because the Russians were a lot meaner to them then the West was.

[Zipperfish]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I'm not shocked. The History Channel has been running World at War in HD. It's been very interesting to watch the old Nazi's and their ilk sticking to their unrepentant loyalty to the monster that was their Fuhrer.

The East Germans weren't Nazis; they were communists. Th Nazis didn't like East Germany too much, because the Russians were a lot meaner to them then the West was.

Was EB trying to say that East Germany were relics of the Nazis? If not, then my post makes no ense. If so, just pointing out that East Germany was extremely inimical to fascism in general and Nazism in particular.

[ShepherdsDog]

Some have pointed out that certain negative stereotypes we associate with the German characte lingered longer in the East Germans because they went from one authoritarian police state into another. They didn't get the chance for openness that the West had to face and address their crimes against humanity.

[martin14]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

They didn't get the chance for openness that the West had to face and address their crimes against humanity.

A common theme in the rest of the ex Warsaw Pact countries.

[BartSimpson]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I didn't know Obama was a socialist.

It's not exactly a secret.

http://keywiki.org/index.php/Barack_Obama_and_the_DSA

[ShepherdsDog]

Sorry man, but based on his views, in Canada, he'd likely be called a conservative or a Blue Liberal/Red Tory. Your definition of a socialist is a little too far to the right, based on most of the rest of the developed world's usage of the term.