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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:38 pm
 


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BS. Kids don't "know" anything of the sort. Thats just wishful thinking on the part of people wanting to find any reason to support their prejudices.



Why is it prejudices when someone has a different view then you, arent you yourself acting prejudice by automatically discounting them becuase they are different then you?. The very thing your saying is wrong?


Because my view involves accepting the choices made by others as their choices and the other requires them to Pre-judge people based only on their sexual orientation.

The fact that they are pre-judging marriages by same sex partners and pre-judging their abilities to raise children is what makes them prejudiced.


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Seriously, I hope you are kidding. You can't be serious that we shouldn't allow children into same sex families so that kids won't be able to tease them.


Wasn't kidding nor saying we shouldn't allow them, if you took five seconds away from your emotion bubble and read it you would see I support them being able to marry and giving them kids etc, I was pointing out the kind of comments you will run into when dealing with such a situation, if your gonna "fight" about something you had better damn well know all the oppositions comments you will get and have ready arguments.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:42 pm
 


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Seriously, I hope you are kidding. You can't be serious that we shouldn't allow children into same sex families so that kids won't be able to tease them.


Wasn't kidding nor saying we shouldn't allow them, if you took five seconds away from your emotion bubble and read it you would see I support them being able to marry and giving them kids etc, I was pointing out the kind of comments you will run into when dealing with such a situation, if your gonna "fight" about something you had better damn well know all the oppositions comments you will get and have ready arguments.


Your words said otherwise and if you will take a moment to read you'll note I was asking you if you were serious about your commenst.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:49 pm
 


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Because my view involves accepting the choices made by others as their choices


OK so my choice lets say is that I don't accept the gay marriage,for any number of reasons, that's my choice
am i prejudice?

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and the other requires them to Pre-judge people based only on their sexual orientation.


There's does not "require" them to judge.There being judged on what i believe to be wrong, not necessarily cause there gay. I don't believe two straight men should raise a child either, or a retarded person or a criminal.


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The fact that they are pre-judging marriages by same sex partners and pre-judging their abilities to raise children is what makes them prejudiced.


Not everyone is judging them by there ability to raise parents, that's a short sighted view, simple example. I would look at it from all points of view. I know for a fact (through documented cases) that a child with two mothers or fathers deals with allot more shit then say "regular" parents. Thus having a harder time with everything else. I don't feel its right to subject a child who has no choice in the matter to a life of ridicule right from the go. I wouldn't have a baby in a world of war either.

*note* none of the above is my belief, just making a case for the other side asI can respect two different views even if i don't agree with them.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:50 pm
 


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acidcomplex acidcomplex:
DerbyX DerbyX:
Seriously, I hope you are kidding. You can't be serious that we shouldn't allow children into same sex families so that kids won't be able to tease them.


Wasn't kidding nor saying we shouldn't allow them, if you took five seconds away from your emotion bubble and read it you would see I support them being able to marry and giving them kids etc, I was pointing out the kind of comments you will run into when dealing with such a situation, if your gonna "fight" about something you had better damn well know all the oppositions comments you will get and have ready arguments.


Your words said otherwise and if you will take a moment to read you'll note I was asking you if you were serious about your commenst.


right and in the first sentence I answered your question

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Wasn't kidding nor saying we shouldn't allow them


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They used to say that about mixed race kids also. No matter what kids will find something to be mean to other kids about. The reason is usually just an excuse.


lol agreed so we shouldnt give them any more reason to make fun of them lol


Could name their boy "Sue."


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:23 pm
 


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They used to say that about mixed race kids also. No matter what kids will find something to be mean to other kids about. The reason is usually just an excuse.


lol agreed so we shouldnt give them any more reason to make fun of them lol


Could name their boy "Sue."



lol My favorite verse

"Well, he must o' thought that is quite a joke
And it got a lot of laughs from a' lots of folk
It seems I had to fight my whole life through
Some gal would giggle and I'd get red
And some guy'd laugh and I'd bust his head

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:40 pm
 


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OK so my choice lets say is that I don't accept the gay marriage,for any number of reasons, that's my choice
am i prejudice?


Yes you are just as surely as if you didn't accept "black" marriage. How about jewish marriage? Hell, it used to be difficult for some people to accept marriage from another faith so yes that would make you prejudice.

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There's does not "require" them to judge.There being judged on what i believe to be wrong, not necessarily cause there gay. I don't believe two straight men should raise a child either, or a retarded person or a criminal.


Insert "2 parents of mixed race" into your sentence. The rest of your post gets progressively more retarded. Can I stop you from raising children if I believe that bigotted people shouldn't be allowed toraise children.

Just who the hell do you think you are setting yourself up as the moral authority as to who can and who cannot raise kids? Seriously.

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Not everyone is judging them by there ability to raise parents, that's a short sighted view, simple example. I would look at it from all points of view. I know for a fact (through documented cases) that a child with two mothers or fathers deals with allot more shit then say "regular" parents. Thus having a harder time with everything else. I don't feel its right to subject a child who has no choice in the matter to a life of ridicule right from the go. I wouldn't have a baby in a world of war either.


The same thing was said decades ago about children of mixed race parentage. The same thing was and is still said about single parent families. Those kids deal with alot of shit not having a mother or father too. What do you suggest? Taking the child away unless its a 2 parent straight family?

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*note* none of the above is my belief, just making a case for the other side asI can respect two different views even if i don't agree with them.


Then my argument is directled at anybody dumb enough to actually believe those points you are making.

BTW, there is indeed a requirment of judging. People are judging same sex marriage when they say its not equal to a straight marriage or even allowed. Thats a judgement and a pre-judgement at that.

Hence the term prejudice fits perfectly.


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