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Regina 
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:12 am
Jabberwalker Jabberwalker: What an A-hole ... Yup
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:13 am
Mowich Mowich: I have had little reason over the years to be proud of the performance of our politicians in the House of Commons - today I have nothing but pride. From the sustained standing ovation given to Kevin Vickers to our PM crossing the floor to hug his main political opponents and the singing of our national anthem, I applaud them one and all.   That and the cartoon earlier reminded me why I am proud to call myself Canadian.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:22 am
Jabberwalker Jabberwalker: I've decided that our Alberta Red Neck is probably 4'-10" with buck teeth and coke bottle glasses. "Rubber Neck Geek" got turned into "Red Neck" by the spell checker software. Wow that hurt my feels you dick licking fucking Toad. Did it take you all day to think that one up, now you went all grade 7 on us. I think it best that you find some time alone in a dark room, maybe pull your goalie and rub your nuts for awhile, your so angry. Oh, and fuck you num-nutz. 
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Regina 
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:43 am
Back on topic or this gets locked up.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:05 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ibeau.html$1: Their noses peeking out from under the fence, Nathan Cirillo's dogs wait patiently for their dad - unaware that he will never be coming home.
A day after the 24-year-old Canadian reservist and single dad was gunned down in Ottawa on Wednesday, his forlorn dogs could be seen peering out from his family's home in Hamilton, Ontario.
Cirillo was devoted to his animals, posting image after image of him grinning beside them to his Instagram feed. Friends also recounted the story of him recently finding an abandoned, emaciated puppy that he nursed back to heath and then re-homed.
'Found him a pretty home, hope he has a good life,' Cirillo wrote just four weeks ago of the pup.
Cirillo, who was shot dead as he stood guard at the National War Memorial outside the Canadian Parliament on Wednesday, also leaves behind a six-year-old son.
He was bringing up the boy, Marcus, alone - with help from his mother, Kathy - after the boy's mother was no longer in the picture, friends have said.
Former girlfriend Randi Lotsberg said that Cirillo lit up whenever he spoke about his son.
'He stepped up. Definitely admirable,' she told The Star. 'I feel so bad right now for his kid. Now his son doesn't have a dad.'
He met the boy's mother, Kendra, at the Ancaster Fair in Jerseyville after he was kicked out for not paying to get in. Outside he met Kendra and a friend, who asked for a ride home,Metro News reported. They dated and went on to have Marcus.
Cirillo's mother Kathy, who is traveling to Ottawa, will now likely take care of Marcus, CBC reported. She took care of him when Cirillo was working or away on his military duties, Lotsberg said.
Nathan's uncle Jim Cirillo told reporters from a home in Hamilton that the soldier's mother is in total shock.
'She's saying she doesn't believe it,' he told CBC. 'She went on the internet and she saw it and she...I don't know how she didn't pass out. She's just completely broken, broken right now.'
Hamilton Mayor Bob Bratina said that he had visited a makeshift memorial to Cirillo outside his regiment's barracks before going to the family's home with Police Chief Glenn De Caire.
As he spoke to the slain soldier's relatives, little Marcus wandered out to greet everyone. He likely didn't understand what had just happened, the mayor said. 'At what point does a five-year-old actually understand that?' Bratina asked.   poor kid. poor dogs.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:14 am
Dammit. ![Cry Baby [cry]](./images/smilies/crybaby.gif) Stop that!
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andyt
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:42 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb: andyt andyt: DrCaleb DrCaleb: WTF are you talking about. I don't think that article has the word muslim in it at all, just ISIS. It certainly doesn't recommend getting the hate on for Muslims, nor does it talk about how awful Islam is. What it in fact recommends is not losing our heads, and the shame the country felt a few years after the War Measures Act, even tho it supported it at the time. Holy crap dude, is your sarcasm detector on the fritz? We are Canadian. We knew attacks like this were a possibility. We don't freak out and blame an entire group of people just because one or two are in need of a rubber room! We aren't going to invade Algeria or nuke Mecca because of these attacks. Can you not see that is my point? That and this article seems to not fit the 'lefty' stereotype of sympathy for the perpetrator and blame for the victim. Not until now, anyways. I wonder if Bart was also being sarcastic, as the article he cited also didn't contain what he said it did?
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andyt
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:53 am
$1: Investigators say the Winchester .30-30 calibre rifle used by Michael Zehaf-Bibeau in this week's Ottawa shootings on Parliament Hill may be a critical piece of evidence as they try to reconstruct his activities prior to the attack.
"The source of that gun is of tremendous interest to us," said RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson on Thursday, "and we will determine where that gun came from."
The Winchester Model 94 is perhaps the most common and recognizable deer-hunting rifle in North America. It has been in constant production since 1894, with over seven million sold.
It is sometimes known as "the gun that won the West."
The design of the lever-action rifle, virtually unchanged for 120 years, may have limited Zehaf-Bibeau's ability to inflict mass casualties on Parliament Hill. Ie bolt action, no magazine. If it had been semi-auto, the other soldier would likely be dead too.
Advanced by the standards of 1894, it holds a maximum of eight rounds, but more normally seven, stored end-to-end in a tube under the barrel. It is not semi-automatic; the lever must be racked between shots.
Unlike more modern rifles that can be reloaded with a clip or magazine containing multiple rounds, the Winchester, once empty, must be painstakingly reloaded round-by-round, inserting the cartridges into a small port on the side of the receiver. The process takes an experienced shooter about 30 seconds -- an eternity in the kind of shootout that took place inside Centre Block.
The RCMP confirmed yesterday that Zehaf-Bibeau fired three shots at the National War Memorial: two at Cpl. Nathan Cirillo and one at the other soldier in the honour guard.
That means he would have had a maximum of five shots left, and more likely four, when he headed for Parliament. Security camera pictures show that he did not pause to reload.
That fact may explain why Zehaf-Bibeau passed on two easy opportunities to kill people on Parliament Hill. First, he allowed the driver of a government car he hijacked to escape. A few seconds later, he exited the car at the front doors of Centre Block, only metres from a group of three individuals. Again, he did not open fire.
Had he shot those people, he would have been entering Parliament with an empty rifle.
If his attack was indeed inspired by ISIS propaganda, it seems unlikely that he would have been so discriminating in his choice of targets. ISIS spokesman Abu Muhammad al-Adnani specifically instructed the group's adherents in the West not to spare civilians, in a video message released last month.
"If you can kill a disbelieving American or European … or an Australian, or a Canadian, or any other disbeliever from the disbelievers waging war … then rely upon Allah, and kill him in any manner or way however it may be," said al-Adnani. "Kill the disbeliever whether he is civilian or military, for they have the same ruling. Both of them are disbelievers."
RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson revealed yesterday that Zehaf-Bibeau was under a criminal prohibition from possessing firearms.
It is standard practice in Canada for courts to issue a lifetime gun ban to almost anyone convicted of a violent offence.
Even where such bans are not imposed, Zehaf-Bibeau would have found it virtually impossible to legally obtain a gun in Canada.
Ottawa lawyer Solomon Friedman is one of Canada's leading experts on firearms law, and has testified several times before Parliament on the issue.
He says if someone with Zehaf-Bibeau's past had approached him for advice on how to get a firearms licence, he would have told him not to waste his time.
"I would tell this person it is almost impossible, if not impossible, for you to obtain firearms."
Friedman says either of his two known criminal convictions would be enough to disqualify him. So probably would the charge of robbery he faced in Vancouver, even though he was not convicted.
He says police consult the CPIC (Canadian Police Intelligence Centre) database when considering licence applications. CPIC shows all contact with police or mental health authorities, not only convictions.
"If one indeed was ordered to be assessed by a psychiatric facility in connection with a criminal proceeding [as Zehaf-Bibeau was], that would show up as an immediate flag."
Friedman adds that the fact Zehaf-Bibeau had no fixed address was in itself enough to bar him from a firearms licence.
It all means that Zehaf-Bibeau must have obtained his rifle either by stealing it, buying it on the black market, or been given the rifle, either by someone unaware of his motives or an accomplice.
It may be that last possibility that explains why police are so focused on tracking the weapon's history. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa-sh ... -1.2811249
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andyt
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:58 am
$1: Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, Ottawa gunman, asked B.C. judge to send him to jail 'If you can't keep me in, I'm going to do something ... just to be put in,' Zehaf-Bibeau said in 2011
The man who shot and killed Cpl. Nathan Cirillo at the National War Memorial and was gunned down himself on Parliament Hill Wednesday morning told a B.C. judge almost three years ago that he was homeless and wanted to go to jail to help break his drug addiction.
The psychiatrist, who met with Zehaf-Bibeau at the Surrey Pre-Trial Centre, found that he was fit to stand trial, and explained some of Zehaf-Bibeau's motivation for wanting to be imprisoned.
"The accused is aware of his charge and possible consequences of conviction. He wants to be in jail as he believes this is the only way he can overcome his addiction to crack cocaine. He has been a devoted Moslem for seven years and he believes he must spend time in jail as a sacrifice to pay for his mistakes in the past and he hopes to be a better man when he is eventually released," the psychiatrist wrote on Dec. 18, 2011.
At Zehaf-Bibeau's bail hearing, he told the judge himself that he wanted to serve time.
'I'm a crack addict and at the same time I'm a religious person... I want to sacrifice freedom and good things... so when I come out, I'll appreciate the things of life more and be clean.' - Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, Dec. 2011 "Yeah, I confessed to an armed robbery 10 years ago. I wanted to come to jail so I could clean up," he said.
"I went to see the RCMP, I told them, 'just put me in so I could do my time for what I confessed.' They couldn't. So, I warned them, 'if you can't keep me in, I'm going to do something right now just to be put in.' So I went to do another robbery just so I could come to jail," Zehaf-Bibeau said.
"I'm a crack addict and at the same time I'm a religious person, so I want to sacrifice freedom and good things for a year maybe, so when I come out, I'll appreciate the things of life more and be clean," Zehaf-Bibeau said.
The prosecutor told the judge Zehaf-Bibeau had been sentenced to two years for the robbery in Quebec, and that he shouldn't be sent to jail just because he wants to go. The prosecutor asked the judge to release Zehaf-Bibeau.
'If you release me what's going to happen again? Probably the same loop and I'm going to be right back here again.' - Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, Dec. 2011 "I don't want to be released," Zehaf-Bibeau said. "The reason I am here is because I wanted to come in. The police said they couldn't keep me, so I went to do a crime to come to jail. So if you release me what's going to happen again? Probably the same loop and I'm going to be right back here again."
The judge agreed to detain him over Christmas.
"Perfect," Zehaf-Bibeau said.
CBC News has also learned Thursday that the 32-year-old had a connection to a mosque in Burnaby, B.C., and may have visited it as recently as last year.
Aasim Rashid, a spokesman for the B.C. Muslim Association, said a few people at the Masjid al-Salaam and Education Centre dealt with Zehaf-Bibeau before his arrest in 2011.
Aasim Rashid, spokesman for the B.C. Muslim Association Aasim Rashid, spokesman for the B.C. Muslim Association, said not everyone at the Burnaby mosque had a good opinion of Zehaf-Bibeau, but that if he was becoming radicalized, he didn't let on. (CBC)
"He apparently was not a very well-mannered person," said Rashid. "The people who have interacted with him described him as kind of rough and maybe a little rude."
"At one point, he raised an objection at the Burnaby mosque that he was sort of floating in and out of for a period of three to four months," Rashid said. "He didn’t like the fact that the mosque was so open and welcoming."
Rashid said that, eventually, mosque administrators sat down with Zehaf-Bibeau and explained that the facility was open to other groups in order to work together on common issues.
"[They said] 'If you have a problem with it, it’s best you go somewhere else,'" said Rashid.
After Zehaf-Bibeau was spoken to, he didn't raise similar concerns again. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.2810683
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:24 am
wildrosegirl wildrosegirl: Oh my lord. I'm so glad I'm Canadian.
We still have our friggin' minds in tact. The people who've been killing people in your country this past week were Canadians.
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Brenda
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:47 am
One of them was a crack head. I guess his religion is more important, but he was a crack head. No one usually cares about the religion of a crack head. Unless it is Islam. Than it trumps the crack head thing.
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andyt
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:53 am
the Islam thing likely made him do what he did. We have many crackheads, many mentally il. Few of them do this sort of thing.
Trying to deny this has something to do with radical Islam is as bad as trying to paint all Muslims as supporting this sort of thing. There are crazy Islamists in our midst, and plenty more offshore who reach us via internet. What we need to do is find a better way to engage the non-crazies in Canada to confront and or report the crazies more.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:58 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: wildrosegirl wildrosegirl: Oh my lord. I'm so glad I'm Canadian.
We still have our friggin' minds in tact. The people who've been killing people in your country this past week were Canadians. Yes, they were. Canadians. Not terrorists. We recognize the difference.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:00 am
http://www.steynonline.com/6621/an-assa ... dian-stateAn Assault on the Heart of the Canadian State$1: On Wednesday morning, shortly before 10am, Corporal Nathan Cirillo of the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders was murdered at Canada's National War Memorial in Ottawa. The killer was a recent Muslim convert, as was the killer of another Canadian soldier in St Jean-sur-Richelieu on Monday, and the killers of Drummer Lee Rigby in Woolwich in South London. In a detail almost too absurd, the Ottawa jihadist turned out to be the son of Susan Bibeau, the Deputy Chairperson of the Immigration Division of Canada's Immigration and Refugee Board. Her (now ex-)husband was a "Libyan businessman".
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And finally I joined Sean Hannity, and among other things I mentioned the only good news of the day: Kevin Vickers is the Sergeant-at-Arms of the House of Commons, which is, most of the time, a ceremonial role - he's the fellow who wears a goofy looking hat and carries the mace into the chamber each day. But he knew enough to understand, in a split second, that the ceremonial role had turned real and to take down the western world's latest Soldier of Allah. Many more of us will need to recover that primal survival instinct in the years ahead.
The sub-title of my new book is "Don't Say You Weren't Warned". I have been writing for over a decade now about the west's wannabe jihadists, often born and raised in Canada and America and Britain and Australia and Europe, some of them converts - or "reverts", as they call them. Throughout that period, the multiculti delusionists have insisted that Islam's contribution to the diversity mosaic is no less positive than that of Poles or Italians. Now we have pure laine Quebeckers and Nigerian South Londoners converting to Islam because it's the coolest gang on the planet. And one consequence of that is that a relaxed, open capital city will descend into the same panopticon security state as Washington. I love Ottawa - I know every yard of that stretch of Wellington Street connecting Parliament and the Cenotaph: Chateau Laurier is where I always stay when in town; not so long ago I walked past the war memorial with a senior Minister of the Crown and we talked about how simple and dignified and profoundly moving it was; and during my battles with the "human rights" commissions I had the honour of testifying to the House of Commons and strolling that same Centre Block corridor that that Allahu Akbar loon rampaged down today.
That security-lite Ottawa is gone, and that is a loss. But there will be others in the years ahead. Because the price of welcoming and incubating and growing Islam in the west is, ultimately, the loss of everything else. It is no small irony that in the same place where shit-for-brains progs tried to persecute Steyn for speaking the truth about islam that one of the very same monsters these morons enabled came to attack them. Did they really think that being nice to the monsters would make the monsters hate them any less?
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:06 am
Oh goody! Another bullshit article from another crackpot "reporter" that can't get a real job, so he posts horseshit on his very own website! We need more of THAT! 
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