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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:13 pm
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:33 pm
Scape Scape: Man, FOX news doesn't even pretend any more, do they?
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:54 pm
Given the nuttery that broke out after the health care vote, I'd wager that our Yankee friends would be better served by not prohibiting free speech but by not being so lazily tolerant of reckless and dangerous speech. Cracking camel jokes at Muslims (Coulter) is one thing, calling your political enemies "viruses and diseases", and calling for their outright elimination (Glenn Beck) is objectively a entirely different level of crazy.
I wouldn't single out Coulter specifically on this one as she's mostly just a bizarre and non-serious joke act who's trying to sell her silly books. She's about as dangerous and offensive as Andrew Dice Clay. And, like I said before, Ezra's a real drama queen and trained political operative who really knows how to work a controversial situation to his advantage. But Beck and Limbaugh and the more hardcore Teabagggers? Nah. That's a different and much more dangerous animal altogether. There's no way anyone's going to convince me that they aren't doing this deliberately in order to make the Culture War (and thank you Pat Buchanan, you fucking Jew-hating asshole, for bringing that noxious terminology into American political discourse in the first place) rapidly change temperature from Cold to Hot. It's inevitable now that what's happened, and is still happening, in the United States has to end in some sort of bloodshed.
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:18 pm
Actually I wish the students hadn't bothered protesting and the UofO prof had said nothing. It gave her exactly what she wanted, ammunition. It would have been far better for that Bwitch to have simply been ignored. That would have sent a far stronger message then placard waving protests.
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:22 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: The best statement I've heard about Coulter's visit was this; $1: One small child held up a sign reading: "I don't have a camel or a flying carpet, can you lend me your broomstick?" http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/1003 ... ontroversyBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA  Friggin priceless ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif)
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:30 pm
Zipperfish Zipperfish: Scape Scape: Man, FOX news doesn't even pretend any more, do they? I know, F'in hilarious!
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:33 pm
Scape Scape: It took a couple of times, but I finally got it loaded and working. A good clip, but I couldn't believe how biased the Fox commentator was. Guess my naivete about Fox caught me again! Her knowledge of free speech and hate speech in Canada was sketchy at best and inaccurate most of the time. At least she didn't pull an O'Reilly and cut off her mike! 
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:38 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: Scape Scape: It took a couple of times, but I finally got it loaded and working. A good clip, but I couldn't believe how biased the Fox commentator was. Guess my naivete about Fox caught me again! Her knowledge of free speech and hate speech in Canada was sketchy at best and inaccurate most of the time. At least she didn't pull an O'Reilly and cut off her mike!  Notice how she kept saying "down here our first amendment rights ...." as if their laws apply to us up here? The many many US flags in the background was a nice touch too. Eisenstein himself couldn't have done better.
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Lemmy
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:03 pm
Thanos Thanos: But Beck and Limbaugh and the more hardcore Teabagggers? Nah. That's a different and much more dangerous animal altogether. There's no way anyone's going to convince me that they aren't doing this deliberately in order to make the Culture War (and thank you Pat Buchanan, you fucking Jew-hating asshole, for bringing that noxious terminology into American political discourse in the first place) rapidly change temperature from Cold to Hot. It's inevitable now that what's happened, and is still happening, in the United States has to end in some sort of bloodshed. The American GOP/teabag movement is exploiting mob mentality. They're conjuring up controversy in a thinly veiled attempt to stall the democratic process, from the disruption of town-hall meetings right up to the Congress itself. They try to pass themselves off as fiscal conservatives and defenders of small government and civil liberties. Yet under Bush II, government and debt were grown like never before and post-911 America sure as hell hasn't been a place where civil liberties have been championed. This whole ridiculous movement is really a sad combination of faux economic populism and xenophobia rolled together. It's not overt fascism (they're not handing out the brown shirts...yet) but it's just as dangerous. The apoplectic brainiacs, like Beck and Limbaugh, stir the shit by aggitating the easily manipulated. They obfuscate their nonesense so that it slips into the mainstream press and media without raising too many red flags. They choose language that legitimizes their rhetoric so that it takes on a life of its own around the office water-cooler or at the neighbourhood watering hole. It's kind of like that scene in Star Wars where Obi Wan Kenobi uses his mind tricks on the feable-minded Storm Troopers; they can't help themselves but be influenced. And behind the scenes, we have the billionaire whacko-mongerers like Charles and David Koch; their sole agenda and reason for existing is to curb clean energy and healthcare reform. And what's most ironic, is the troglodytes who are swayed by this nonesensical bile are the low and middle-income Americans who have the most to gain from progressive government. It's like a Bizzaro-world version of the Helsinki syndrome.
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:58 pm
Oh hell, you can see the kneejerk stupidity from obvious rightwing poster's reactions to Ann's Ottawa trip. Checking some of the American sources for responses to the story, I find it amusing that those that seemed to support Ann the most and had ALL kinds of invective for Canada were from the more "intellectual" states like Kentucky, Alabama, Mississippi and Idaho. While there we responses from other states that went along with that "Canada is communist" diatribe, I noticed that those other states also had a good number of posters that had nothing good to say about Ann. They actually understood the fact that other countries don't HAVE to define Freedom of Speech exactly the way the US Constitution has been interpreted to define it.
On a side note, isn't Alabama's state motto: 5 million people, 15 last names?
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meee223
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:09 pm
I actually have no clue as to who Ann Coulter is. Only heard about her yesterday when reading the paper about her attempting to speak at a Canadian university. Just who the heck is she and what has she said that riles people up?
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:28 pm
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:29 pm
meee223 meee223: I actually have no clue as to who Ann Coulter is. Only heard about her yesterday when reading the paper about her attempting to speak at a Canadian university. Just who the heck is she and what has she said that riles people up? She's a right wing polemicist and author. Her job basically consist at provoking people and getting paid very well for it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:50 pm
Look, what is all the fuss about this anyways!
People that don't like it, ok fine, then don't go. There is no need to get a violent protest going. Simple as that.
Sure, we have a right to protest in this country, but some people abuse that right.
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