[BRAH]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

BRAH BRAH:

CNN's anchors actually think they're Nuclear experts..

Giving credit where credit is due, CNN and their analysts have been calling the shots on this pretty well. When the first reactor exploded they posed the question about a second explosion and they were denounced for being 'alarmist' yet they called it, didn't they?

Sure, there's speculation, but in this kind of situation such speculation is leading people to evacuate Tokyo and areas south and west of Fukushima ahead of the wind direction change this weekend and that may end up being prudent if this isn't under control before next week when the weather's supposed to change.

http://www.timeanddate.com/weather/japan/tokyo/ext

I would rather take the word of the Japanese Media than someone like AC and the rest of the Motley Crue.

[ShepherdsDog]

Now that, is a believable number, and as you pointed out why would a carrier have to get so close when it has the SH-60s, which can fly 300 miles(at 180 mph), hover for 45 minutes and then return to the Reagan (which will have gotten that much closer). The Pegasus class patrol boats moved at 48 knots when they were up on their foils.

[Brenda]

Maybe I am too simple, but why haven't they put new generators there yet, in 6 days?
They can fly over the reactors with helicopters with water, so why not bring generators in the same way, so they can hook pumps up?

[ShepherdsDog]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011 ... nment.html

$1:

Japanese officials have rejected a dire appraisal of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear facility by the head of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, who says water is absent from a reactor's spent fuel pool, raising the potential of a meltdown.

"There is no water in the spent fuel pool and we believe that radiation levels are extremely high, which could possibly impact the ability to take corrective measures," NRC chairman Gregory Jaczko said.

Without any water in the spent fuel pool, the fuel rods would eventually overheat and melt down, causing the outer rods to burn and spread radioactive fuel widely.

To which TEPCO says...

$1:

Japan's nuclear safety agency and Tokyo Electric Power Co., the operator of the Fukushima complex, denied that water was gone from the spent fuel pool. Company spokesman Hajime Motojuku said "the condition is stable," at the Unit 4 reactor, one of six at the plant.

Are they that stupid that they think that if their lies sound convincing enough to themselves, that everyone else will buy their line??

[Hyack]

All 6 reactor units of the Daiichi Nuclear Power Station have been shut down.

The plant is 40 years old. The tsunami overpowered the facility’s diesel generators, leading to emergency shutdowns of the reactors. Key to the situation: cooling the reactor cores. Workers are using seawater and boron in cooling efforts -- but if they don’t do it fast enough there’s risk of a full-blown meltdown. Experts say if more than about 35 per cent of the uranium cores are exposed, meltdown to some degree is inevitable.

There are six reactors in all at Tokyo Electric Power Company's Fukushima Daiichi plant, located in northeastern Japan about 65 km south of Sendai.



Full story and pics.....

http://www.ctv.ca/generic/WebSpecials/reactors/index.html

[martin14]

Brenda Brenda:

Maybe I am too simple, but why haven't they put new generators there yet, in 6 days?
They can fly over the reactors with helicopters with water, so why not bring generators in the same way, so they can hook pumps up?

Good question, probably a 'who's in charge' problem.

I doubt TEPCO has helicopters that have a real lift capacity, and
the companies missteps also include not asking the government for help.

When the PM gets info from the tv, that's not good.


It looks like they have been using fire engines for the last week,
now water cannon also coming, cause you can see video that these helicopter drops won't work.

5 days to clear the roads to the plant.
They have power line coming, but I doubt with all the damage to the reactors
that that will really help at this stage.

[martin14]

If the condition was stable, there would be no need to try these helicopter water drops.


It is only now, as usual, that the Americans are getting involved, that
things may start to improve.

[ShepherdsDog]

By the time they have all of these things in place, they won't be able to get near enough to the plant to implement the plans they are currently hoping to carry out.

[martin14]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

By the time they have all of these things in place, they won't be able to get near enough to the plant to implement the plans they are currently hoping to carry out.

True dat, this thing has been a mess from the start.



Sadly, I think in order to get this under control, people are now going to die.

[ShepherdsDog]

those still at the plant are already on that list.

[martin14]

Another forecast of radiation plumes..

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011 ... ef=science

[martin14]

They have a live cam of Fukushima back up.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-gtv

meh, it looked live, no its not.





And I just saw a news conference by brand new people.. A Japanese 4 star General.


They will start the water cannon idea in a few hours..

[ShepherdsDog]

the 'expert' they have on NHK right now is an example of someone who has read lots of English, but obviously hasn't spoken it much.

[DrCaleb]

Hyack Hyack:

All 6 reactor units of the Daiichi Nuclear Power Station have been shut down.

The plant is 40 years old. The tsunami overpowered the facility’s diesel generators, leading to emergency shutdowns of the reactors. Key to the situation: cooling the reactor cores. Workers are using seawater and boron in cooling efforts -- but if they don’t do it fast enough there’s risk of a full-blown meltdown. Experts say if more than about 35 per cent of the uranium cores are exposed, meltdown to some degree is inevitable.

There are six reactors in all at Tokyo Electric Power Company's Fukushima Daiichi plant, located in northeastern Japan about 65 km south of Sendai.

I think that's the story that's been missed. A 40 year old reactor held up against the strongest earthquake recorded in modern history, that it wasn't specifically designed to withstand. It's the unpredictable tsunami that did it in, and that wouldn't have happened if they put the backup generators somewhere else.

[Brenda]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Hyack Hyack:

All 6 reactor units of the Daiichi Nuclear Power Station have been shut down.

The plant is 40 years old. The tsunami overpowered the facility’s diesel generators, leading to emergency shutdowns of the reactors. Key to the situation: cooling the reactor cores. Workers are using seawater and boron in cooling efforts -- but if they don’t do it fast enough there’s risk of a full-blown meltdown. Experts say if more than about 35 per cent of the uranium cores are exposed, meltdown to some degree is inevitable.

There are six reactors in all at Tokyo Electric Power Company's Fukushima Daiichi plant, located in northeastern Japan about 65 km south of Sendai.

I think that's the story that's been missed. A 40 year old reactor held up against the strongest earthquake recorded in modern history, that it wasn't specifically designed to withstand. It's the unpredictable tsunami that did it in, and that wouldn't have happened if they put the backup generators somewhere else.

I have been wondering WHY those generators were not ON THE ROOF???