[BRAH]

This isn't CSI or Law & Order which means all the facts have to be in before anyone starts Monday Morning Quarterbacking the actions of police officers.

[andyt]

Watch Myth busters and how anybody withing 20 feet with a knife has a good chance of beating somebody with a gun. I don't blame cops for shooting somebody that's within 10 feet and advancing on them with a knife. Doesn't matter if he was mentally ill, or wanted to commit suicide by cop, the cop could be just as dead if he had been stabbed.

[Thanos]

The prevailing narrative from the cop-haters is "you didn't need to shoot him! why didn't you use a tazer!", with the complete ignorance that the drugged-up or mentally ill can often shrug off a tazer blast like it was a mosquito bite. Ditto with using the baton and/or the pepper spray. And, if they'd used the tazer and the guy died from a heart attack, they'd still be condemned anyway.

Haters gonna hate. No action by one of their designated targets will ever be good enough, especially not in the current feeding frenzy. It's in their blood.

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

The prevailing narrative from the cop-haters is "you didn't need to shoot him! why didn't you use a tazer!", with the complete ignorance that the drugged-up or mentally ill can often shrug off a tazer blast like it was a mosquito bite. Ditto with using the baton and/or the pepper spray. And, if they'd used the tazer and the guy died from a heart attack, they'd still be condemned anyway.

Haters gonna hate. No action by one of their designated targets will ever be good enough, especially not in the current feeding frenzy. It's in their blood.

Forgive me, but for most of the 20th century police in the UK were not armed with anything more than a baton and they fared just fine against people armed with knives.

[Thanos]

And for the most part, even in chav-land, the background British society is nowhere near as violent as the one in the United States traditionally has been. In a nation where, for most of the last forty years anyway, the prevailing thought has been "shoot first, think later", why exactly should it be a surprise if the police have the same general attitude as the politicians, the political punditry, the entertainment industry that thrives on producing hyper-violent movies and TV shows, and a large portion of the population in general? Police over-reaction, or these claims of a militarized police system, are a response to something inside your overall American culture. It's not a root cause, it's a symptom. Hell, as far as Ferguson is concerned, the overall negative racial history of Missouri (going back to the 1820 political Missouri Compromise that allowed it to exist as a half-free/half-slave state) probably has as much to do with the Ferguson problems as police over-reaction does. There's no vacuum here. It's just layers and layers of an onion that's been rotting away for a long, long time.

Another thing too is that if the police are scaled back as much as the social liberals and pseudo-libertarians want them to be, the social crises that led to the ramping up of police reaction since the 1960's are just going to return full force, and then it'll be back to the "where are the cops, why aren't they doing something about this?" mentality. The liberals and libertarians today that want the police scaled back are only going to be countered five to ten years from now by those appalled and scared by the absence of police that will certainly lead to more violent crime just as occurred in the 1960's, 70's, and 80's.

[N_Fiddledog]

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

In a related shooting in St. Louis the cops shot and killed a man and then made up a steaming pile of BS to justify the shooting. That steaming pile of BS has now been definitively contradicted by a cell phone video:

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2014/ ... ing-death/

That's exactly the video Martin posted.

Looking at this video a bit more carefully I'm seeing that one of the cops fired twice more after the perp was down. That's totally unjustifiable.

[bootlegga]

BRAH BRAH:

Suicide by cop also hurts the police officer who fired the fatal shot, no winners here.

In a situation like that video, I have no sympathy for the cop,especially after one of them fired twice after he was down. If there was any justice in the world, he'd get the book thrown at him, but I'll bet dollars to donuts it gets classified justifiable.

And cops in Ferguson wonder why they have a bad reputation...

[BRAH]

These savages have destroyed their own community because the business that were burned down and looted will probably not becoming back.

[BartSimpson]

BRAH BRAH:

These savages have destroyed their own community because the business that were burned down and looted will probably not becoming back.

True. I've never understood the black community for their penchant to destroy their own neighborhoods when they're upset about something.

You never see anyone else doingthis kind of thing.

[BRAH]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

BRAH BRAH:

These savages have destroyed their own community because the business that were burned down and looted will probably not becoming back.

True. I've never understood the black community for their penchant to destroy their own neighborhoods when they're upset about something.

You never see anyone else doingthis kind of thing.

There's the black community and there's the savages as seen in the video who don't care about the black community they've destroyed in Ferguson.

[Gunnair]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Thanos Thanos:

The prevailing narrative from the cop-haters is "you didn't need to shoot him! why didn't you use a tazer!", with the complete ignorance that the drugged-up or mentally ill can often shrug off a tazer blast like it was a mosquito bite. Ditto with using the baton and/or the pepper spray. And, if they'd used the tazer and the guy died from a heart attack, they'd still be condemned anyway.

Haters gonna hate. No action by one of their designated targets will ever be good enough, especially not in the current feeding frenzy. It's in their blood.

Forgive me, but for most of the 20th century police in the UK were not armed with anything more than a baton and they fared just fine against people armed with knives.

Clearly Bart is in his buried school bus bunker and some skinny jeans hipster with an Occupy t-shirt is operating his account.

[Gunnair]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

BRAH BRAH:

These savages have destroyed their own community because the business that were burned down and looted will probably not becoming back.

True. I've never understood the black community for their penchant to destroy their own neighborhoods when they're upset about something.

You never see anyone else doingthis kind of thing.

Never been in Vancouver for game 7, eh?

[Brenda]

Gunnair Gunnair:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

BRAH BRAH:

These savages have destroyed their own community because the business that were burned down and looted will probably not becoming back.

True. I've never understood the black community for their penchant to destroy their own neighborhoods when they're upset about something.

You never see anyone else doingthis kind of thing.

Never been in Vancouver for game 7, eh?

Never been in Europe for a random soccer match on a random Sunday Afternoon, eh?

[BartSimpson]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Never been in Vancouver for game 7, eh?

That's different because the fans trash downtown Van and not their own neighborhoods.

Canadians might get crazy on occasion, but they're not stupid.