[PublicAnimalNo9]

RUEZ RUEZ:

I though of a good compromise to satisfy the people that don't care about their civil liberties. I figure the government can have all drivers in BC install a breathalyzer interlock, at the owners expense of course. I hear they cost around 1500 installed. If you can't afford that you can just go down to money mart and get yourself a loan at 100% interest. Don't worry it's just a minor inconvenience for the overall safety of the public. This way everyone wins.

Oh hell, let's jsut get rid of all those annoying traffic act laws. Get rid of speed limits. After all, I should be able to go from point A to point B in as little time as possible. While we're at it, get rid of those pesky stop signs and traffic lights. I shouldn't have to stop if I don't wanna.
And of course, everyone should be allowed to drive as impaired as they damn well feel. Then we can also scrap any laws regarding cell phone use and texting whilst driving. And why should I have to have my lights on at night when driving in the city? The streets are already lit up. Seatbelts? Fuggetaboutit, it's unlawful restraint. I should also be allowed to blast my 250 watt car stereo as loud as I want while driving with straight headers. And to HELL with pulling over for emergency vehicles or stopping for school buses. Don't those self-centered bastards realize I have places to be? I haven't got time for their shit.
After all, why should I be inconvenienced?

[dgthe3]

Shouldn't really be much of a need to perform 'random breathalyser tests', should there?

I mean, if the driver doesn't look like they're driving drunk then what are the odds that they're actually drunk and could cause harm to others? On the other hand, if you're weaving and there have been some reports of someone driving 'erratically' ... well, get ready to blow buddy.

[ASLplease]

RUEZ has a point. People are willing to volunteer their rights away to feel safer, why dont they just volunteer to have a breathalyzer interlock placed on the car ignition? that should be just as effective or more at getting drunk drivers off the road, and we dont have to subject ourselves to demeaning stop checks.

[RUEZ]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

After all, why should I be inconvenienced?

You see random breathalyzer's as a minor inconvenience. I see it as a violation of my rights. Luckily for most of us this won't fly.

[Public_Domain]

[Bacardi4206]

You want to see the measure of peoples "rights" compared to safety? Just look at America, they have the right to bare arms. Hell there are people that have over several different kinds of weapons just for home safety or just for the hell of it which includes assault rifles. Look at America's gun death rate and crime rate. Is you're personal right to bare arms as a freedom really worth arming every criminal, killer and scumbag in the country with more firepower than the U.S. police can handle. Kinda weird how citizens and criminals pack more firepower than law enforcement. Sure would make me feel safe at night too but hey, what's your safety and that of your family when you get to have some wicked guns! For Americans and I am sure some Canadians, they'd love that. However it's just not worth it.

If Americans couldn't just buy all these weapons for themselves, there criminals couldn't get there hands on them and some would just find it very very hard and expensive. Neither would these same individuals be-able to sell these weapons to other countries, like in the hands of Canadian gangs or to the IRA (for example).

I am willing to subject myself to "demeaning" and "rights violation" because believe it or not, some things are just more important. I'm sure I'd never have to make that arguement with parents who's lost kids in a car accident. Either hit by a drunk driver or riding in a car with one. Theres a thin line between getting pulled over randomly to do a breathalyzer and cops randomly searching peoples homes without warrants for illegal things. Ones a inconvenience for the good of traffic safety, the other is unjustified violation of rights and privacy. That's how I see it.

[Gunnair]

[EyeBrock]

ASLplease ASLplease:

RUEZ has a point. People are willing to volunteer their rights away to feel safer, why dont they just volunteer to have a breathalyzer interlock placed on the car ignition? that should be just as effective or more at getting drunk drivers off the road, and we dont have to subject ourselves to demeaning stop checks.

Add demeaning stop signs, demeaning speed limits in school zones (I mean, for fucks sake, 40 kmh? Those kids are fit and agile, they can jump out of the way of my car!).

I also find it demeaning having to line up to get a license at the MTO, it's all just a tax grab and demeaning at that. And what's with those demeaning vehicle inspection certificates?

Guns and drunk driving, a great mix. We know where you stand ASL.

[Gunnair]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

ASLplease ASLplease:

RUEZ has a point. People are willing to volunteer their rights away to feel safer, why dont they just volunteer to have a breathalyzer interlock placed on the car ignition? that should be just as effective or more at getting drunk drivers off the road, and we dont have to subject ourselves to demeaning stop checks.

Add demeaning stop signs, demeaning speed limits in school zones (I mean, for fucks sake, 40 kmh? Those kids are fit and agile, they can jump out of the way of my car!).

I also find it demeaning having to line up to get a license at the MTO, it's all just a tax grab and demeaning at that. And what's with those demeaning vehicle inspection certificates?

Guns and drunk driving, a great mix. We know where you stand ASL.

There's a fine line between giving too much power to the state on one hand, and outright selfishness by citizens that their individual rights trump the rights of all. While driving my car is a privilege, I believe I have a right to drive in as safe as an environment as possible, hence I don't bitch about counterattack and their random stops.

At some point, those amazingly selfish individuals who think their rights trump all just might grow up, but I doubt it.

[EyeBrock]

Gunnair Gunnair:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

ASLplease ASLplease:

RUEZ has a point. People are willing to volunteer their rights away to feel safer, why dont they just volunteer to have a breathalyzer interlock placed on the car ignition? that should be just as effective or more at getting drunk drivers off the road, and we dont have to subject ourselves to demeaning stop checks.

Add demeaning stop signs, demeaning speed limits in school zones (I mean, for fucks sake, 40 kmh? Those kids are fit and agile, they can jump out of the way of my car!).

I also find it demeaning having to line up to get a license at the MTO, it's all just a tax grab and demeaning at that. And what's with those demeaning vehicle inspection certificates?

Guns and drunk driving, a great mix. We know where you stand ASL.

There's a fine line between giving too much power to the state on one hand, and outright selfishness by citizens that their individual rights trump the rights of all. While driving my car is a privilege, I believe I have a right to drive in as safe as an environment as possible, hence I don't bitch about counterattack and their random stops.

At some point, those amazingly selfish individuals who think their rights trump all just might grow up, but I doubt it.

I agree you Jock Fishead-git.

Too many people care only about themselves and their personal rights.

They don't care about the community they live in or that a RIDE check that stops a drunk driver from killing or maiming somebody in their car.

It's a demeaning infringement of their rights, fuck the rest of us.

[Gunnair]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Gunnair Gunnair:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Add demeaning stop signs, demeaning speed limits in school zones (I mean, for fucks sake, 40 kmh? Those kids are fit and agile, they can jump out of the way of my car!).

I also find it demeaning having to line up to get a license at the MTO, it's all just a tax grab and demeaning at that. And what's with those demeaning vehicle inspection certificates?

Guns and drunk driving, a great mix. We know where you stand ASL.

There's a fine line between giving too much power to the state on one hand, and outright selfishness by citizens that their individual rights trump the rights of all. While driving my car is a privilege, I believe I have a right to drive in as safe as an environment as possible, hence I don't bitch about counterattack and their random stops.

At some point, those amazingly selfish individuals who think their rights trump all just might grow up, but I doubt it.

I agree you Jock Fishead-git.

I appreciate that you Mick-crab-prat!

[EyeBrock]

That made me laugh Gunnair!

[Gunnair]

I`m here all week...

[stratos]

Now who will be blamed when a police officer does not stop a person speeding down the road and slams into the family car killing the kids. When the officer who patrols that area is asked where he/she was and says I was busy doing a random breath test on a sobber guy. But hey its ok it was all for the public good.

[Brenda]

Ehhmmm, first of all, you can't blame a cop for an accident he didnt prevent because he was doing his job, secondly, you only know for sure the person was sober when you tested him/her, and thirdly, whenever a cop (at least here) sees someone speeding excessively, they will stop what they are doing, and go get them.

What if it turns out your hypothetical guy drank too much, and caused an accident, but the cop was too busy writing a ticket for someone going 5 over the speed limit?