These dirtbags on the floatilla were just a bunch of suicidal provocateurs that relies on the medias knee jerk reaction to paint Israel as the bad guy every time no matter what even though they were well within their rights to defend themselves.
Scape
CKA Moderator
Posts: 35283
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:15 pm
xerxes
CKA Uber
Posts: 19955
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:21 pm
Bodah Bodah:
These dirtbags on the floatilla were just a bunch of suicidal provocateurs that relies on the medias knee jerk reaction to paint Israel as the bad guy every time no matter what even though they were well within their rights to defend themselves.
Defned themselves from what? Boats full of toys, food, and wheelchairs?
Scape
CKA Moderator
Posts: 35283
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:30 pm
Knives on a ship what possible use would that have been but to attack commandos boarding? Had the flotilla really been armed with actual weapons there would have been dead commandos.
Israel has attacked a member of NATO and Israel is not a member. I have serious doubts about NATO doing anything to defend Turkey but Turkey could see the NATO membership as an pointless.
RUEZ
CKA Uber
Posts: 15102
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:39 pm
xerxes xerxes:
Defned themselves from what? Boats full of toys, food, and wheelchairs?
I'll tell you what, I'll start beating you with a crowbar and you tell me what your response will be.
Wada
CKA Elite
Posts: 3355
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:09 pm
You don't get it Ruez. Legally the people on board that ship were well within their rights to attack the boarding commando unit and under the same circumstances I'd have done the same.
What Israel could have done was wait until they were in territorial waters and then sent a boarding craft and boarded within normal procedures, had their intent been peaceful.
Bodah
CKA Elite
Posts: 4805
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:25 pm
xerxes xerxes:
Bodah Bodah:
These dirtbags on the floatilla were just a bunch of suicidal provocateurs that relies on the medias knee jerk reaction to paint Israel as the bad guy every time no matter what even though they were well within their rights to defend themselves.
Defned themselves from what? Boats full of toys, food, and wheelchairs?
Even if that's all that was in the cargo bay, whats the excuse for ignoring orders all they had to do was divert for inspection and they would of been on there way.
Just a bunch suicidal provocateurs starving for media attention that are willing to pay the ultimate price in order to paint a nation that exercises the right to defend itself in a very bad light with the hopes the rest of the world eventually follows suit and reverts to an uglier version of nazism ideology.
Toys and wheelchairs in action !!!
Proculation
CKA Super Elite
Posts: 6584
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:50 pm
Wada Wada:
You don't get it Ruez. Legally the people on board that ship were well within their rights to attack the boarding commando unit and under the same circumstances I'd have done the same.
What Israel could have done was wait until they were in territorial waters and then sent a boarding craft and boarded within normal procedures, had their intent been peaceful.
I agree they should have waited but their intentions was clear: they were going to Gaza.
There was 6 boats. 5 followed the orders to go to Ashdod and the other one, with radical muslims wanting to die in martyr, did not.
It's still a 'publicity' stunt to make Israel look like angry butchers with long and sharp teeth.
EyeBrock
CKA Uber
Posts: 15681
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:55 pm
Wada Wada:
You don't get it Ruez. Legally the people on board that ship were well within their rights to attack the boarding commando unit and under the same circumstances I'd have done the same.
What Israel could have done was wait until they were in territorial waters and then sent a boarding craft and boarded within normal procedures, had their intent been peaceful.
I agree with Wada on this one. Instead the raid on MV HAMAS, well it's a total black-eye for Israel's image in the West.
It just plays right into their enemies hands.
Whom ever gave clearance to this in Israel needs a good ass-kicking.
commanderkai
CKA Super Elite
Posts: 7835
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:55 pm
xerxes xerxes:
Defned themselves from what? Boats full of toys, food, and wheelchairs?
That's right. Because the multiple stabbings were done by Hot Wheels and Barbies.
Proculation
CKA Super Elite
Posts: 6584
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:01 pm
commanderkai commanderkai:
xerxes xerxes:
Defned themselves from what? Boats full of toys, food, and wheelchairs?
That's right. Because the multiple stabbings were done by Hot Wheels and Barbies.
AS the last of 15 Israeli naval commandos fast-roping down from a helicopter on to the deck of the Mavi Marmara on Monday, Staff Sergeant S saw three men who preceded him lying on the deck, one unconscious with a fractured skull and two wounded by bullets.
Sergeant S began dragging the wounded against the side of the Turkish passenger ship and formed a perimeter with the remaining commandos. The militants on deck charged them with metal staves, axes and knives. The attackers also had two pistols they had seized from commandos.
"There was murder in their eyes," Sergeant S said yesterday. "They were out to kill us."
The fighting took place on Monday, as the Israelis intercepted a six-ship flotilla of peace activists trying to breach the Jewish state's blockade of the Gaza Strip. The commandos regrouped and fought back, leaving nine activists dead - and Israel facing a PR disaster.
Most of the commandos had been outfitted with paintball rifles that had been considered sufficient to intimidate an unruly crowd - the worst that had been anticipated by the Israelis. All, however, had pistols. Sergeant S pulled his 9mm Glock and killed a militant pointing a pistol at the head of one of the wounded. He then shot dead five other militants. His colleagues killed another three.
AS the last of 15 Israeli naval commandos fast-roping down from a helicopter on to the deck of the Mavi Marmara on Monday, Staff Sergeant S saw three men who preceded him lying on the deck, one unconscious with a fractured skull and two wounded by bullets.
Sergeant S began dragging the wounded against the side of the Turkish passenger ship and formed a perimeter with the remaining commandos. The militants on deck charged them with metal staves, axes and knives. The attackers also had two pistols they had seized from commandos.
"There was murder in their eyes," Sergeant S said yesterday. "They were out to kill us."
The fighting took place on Monday, as the Israelis intercepted a six-ship flotilla of peace activists trying to breach the Jewish state's blockade of the Gaza Strip. The commandos regrouped and fought back, leaving nine activists dead - and Israel facing a PR disaster.
Most of the commandos had been outfitted with paintball rifles that had been considered sufficient to intimidate an unruly crowd - the worst that had been anticipated by the Israelis. All, however, had pistols. Sergeant S pulled his 9mm Glock and killed a militant pointing a pistol at the head of one of the wounded. He then shot dead five other militants. His colleagues killed another three.
Yes, of course. They were JUST humanitarians ....
Come on, 'He said-she said' or wot?
A load of subjective old bollocks.
Proculation
CKA Super Elite
Posts: 6584
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:14 pm
Another good one from the same article:
$1:
Interviews given by the commando team to Israeli reporters depict the militants who attacked them as tough, well-trained men who had apparently seen battle before. Colonel T said he realised they probably had a military background when he dropped stun grenades on to the deck and fired warning shots before descending from his helicopter. "They didn't even flinch," he said. "Ordinary people would move."
The militants were organised into squads and were equipped with communication devices. All wore gas masks and ceramic bulletproof vests. The Israel Defence Forces spokesman said the Marmara's captain had said the militants had come aboard with additional weapons of their own but threw them overboard after the commandos began gaining control of the vessel.
AS the last of 15 Israeli naval commandos fast-roping down from a helicopter on to the deck of the Mavi Marmara on Monday, Staff Sergeant S saw three men who preceded him lying on the deck, one unconscious with a fractured skull and two wounded by bullets.
Sergeant S began dragging the wounded against the side of the Turkish passenger ship and formed a perimeter with the remaining commandos. The militants on deck charged them with metal staves, axes and knives. The attackers also had two pistols they had seized from commandos.
"There was murder in their eyes," Sergeant S said yesterday. "They were out to kill us."
The fighting took place on Monday, as the Israelis intercepted a six-ship flotilla of peace activists trying to breach the Jewish state's blockade of the Gaza Strip. The commandos regrouped and fought back, leaving nine activists dead - and Israel facing a PR disaster.
Most of the commandos had been outfitted with paintball rifles that had been considered sufficient to intimidate an unruly crowd - the worst that had been anticipated by the Israelis. All, however, had pistols. Sergeant S pulled his 9mm Glock and killed a militant pointing a pistol at the head of one of the wounded. He then shot dead five other militants. His colleagues killed another three.
Yes, of course. They were JUST humanitarians ....
Come on, 'He said-she said' or wot?
A load of subjective old bollocks.
I believe more the chief of the commando than some stupid Allah fighters.