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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:55 pm
 


andyt andyt:
bootlegga bootlegga:
You might want to read what I wrote.

I said IF the West deployed sufficient forces to deal with ISIS.

For Gulf War 1, the USA deployed half a million men, hundreds of aircraft and three or four carrier battlegroups. Obama hasn't even deployed 1/10th of that to deal with ISIS.

Hell, Canada sent three warships, 18 fighter-bombers and another couple hundred to support them.

That's the kind of total war effort that is needed, not these sad sack half measures.



I did read what you wrote. Here are the salient parts:

bootlegga bootlegga:

One brigade of troops from any NATO country would annihilate the 20000 fighters ISIS has.

But it doesn't have to come to that.

Instead of a single CF-18 dropping a bomb or two on an artillery battery, we need to send a squadron of B-52s to flatten ISIS fighters any time they mass. By starting out with a huge coordinated strike, it would be easy to wipe out most of their combat power in one go.

After we really flattened them and their troops a couple times, they would likely disperse and then we'd have to send in special forces to deal with them in close. That would no doubt cause casualties, but I'll take JTF2 over punk ass jihadists any day of the week and twice on Sunday.




Also then posted those pics as targets the West was supposed to go after, as if a convoy of ISIS fighters wouldn't be their no. 1 target, and wouldn't take B52's to bomb either. They need Warthogs. Maybe even Apaches if they can deal with the missiles.


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How easy is it to launch a surprise air attack when you've deployed 6 fighters? Pretty fucking hard, because neither people nor aircraft can operate 24/7 for very long.

But if they are a couple hundred planes available, then it's easy to launch large raids 24/7 at targets of opportunity.

As I said, we need far more resources to deal with the militarily.

You say the ideology can't be beaten, but if you kill enough people with those thoughts, then they will learn. You just have to be willing to sink to their own level and inflict the same kind of terror and ass-whupping on them that they do on us.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:00 pm
 


France might invoke NATO's article #5 which means Trudeau can't pull Canada's CF18's correct?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:10 pm
 


Article 5 obligates members to assist. It is still up to them how they choose to do that.:

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The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:11 pm
 


Doubtful because we're still going to be there in some capacity even if the CF18's are withdrawn. JTF2 is going around in the Kurdish areas collecting ISIS scalps the same way they did to the Taliban and Al Qaeda in A-stan. Trudeau's also said that he wants to increase the number of trainers and advisors that are already working with the Peshmerga. At this stage I imagine the pressure on Trudeau to keep the airstrikes going is increased in intensity by about a 1000% at the G20 meetings in Turkey. This could be one campaign promise he quietly walks away from entirely without receiving any criticism at all for it back home.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:12 pm
 


N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Delwin Delwin:
Mosque in Peterborough, Ont., deliberately set on fire, police say

http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mosque-in-pet ... -1.2659478

I guess ISIS' plan is working.


Hang on there, Roman.

Remember what happened when you jumped to conclusions about who started the church fires in St Louis.

Oh, pardon me. This isn't Roman? [huh]

Whatever...

If it turns out this Mosque burner is somebody within the flock looking to enhance their stance as victim it's going to be a long way from being the first time that ever happened.


called it. you lose, racist garbage.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:13 pm
 


Fuck you. The blood in Paris is what your "revolution" was supposed to look like all along. You are nothing but terrorist loving scum.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:32 pm
 


Delwin Delwin:
Article 5 obligates members to assist. It is still up to them how they choose to do that.:

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The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.


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Doubtful because we're still going to be there in some capacity even if the CF18's are withdrawn. JTF2 is going around in the Kurdish areas collecting ISIS scalps the same way they did to the Taliban and Al Qaeda in A-stan. Trudeau's also said that he wants to increase the number of trainers and advisors that are already working with the Peshmerga. At this stage I imagine the pressure on Trudeau to keep the airstrikes going is increased in intensity by about a 1000% at the G20 meetings in Turkey. This could be one campaign promise he quietly walks away from entirely without receiving any criticism at all for it back home.

Can't really blame Trudeau if he walks away from his promises because at the time France wasn't attacked and his campaign advisors should have known better.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:40 pm
 


Thanos Thanos:
Fuck you. The blood in Paris is what your "revolution" was supposed to look like all along. You are nothing but terrorist loving scum.


nope, my revolution means people like you cease to exist. try again.


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nope, my revolution means people like you cease to exist. try again, Kafir.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:49 pm
 


romanP romanP:
Thanos Thanos:
Fuck you. The blood in Paris is what your "revolution" was supposed to look like all along. You are nothing but terrorist loving scum.


nope, my revolution means people like you cease to exist. try again.


Can we report this guy to the cops?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:51 pm
 


Really? That's the statement that does it?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:51 pm
 


His revolution means he won't be oppressed by people like his mom asking for rent or for him to get a job to help pay for his meals.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:55 pm
 


andyt andyt:
Really? That's the statement that does it?


I think it's been his collective rants for the past two hours. What I am hearing is that he wants all of us to die because we disagree with his views on the state the world is in and how it should be run. This sounds an awful lot like the profile of someone susceptible to ISIS influence. If we are to believe that being Muslim has nothing to do with it, then it means anyone who fits this profile is susceptible and should be reported so that the proper authorities can determine whether or not this individual is indeed a legitimate threat or is of enough interest to warrant observation.

The shoe fits.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:00 pm
 


Seems like a stretch to me. I've heard seen much more virulent hate speech directed at Muslims here. None were direct threats, neither is his. But go for it, get the authorities to look at the site. They might not confine themselves to his posts tho.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:02 pm
 


The societal parasite is angry because his mom cancelled his Xbox account. He wants eveybody dead because they're being mean to him .........again :lol:


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