[andyt]

Brenda Brenda:

Us 'white Europeans' are still being blamed for black slavery in the US.

Sure. And in part its the same game that Israel plays. But consider the amount of wealth that black slaves created in the US - the whole southern economy was based on it, which is why they went to war over it. (Of course all that cheap labor also kept a lot of whites very poor too, but they were mollified by taking out their anger on the blacks.). That wealth stayed in white peoples pockets, ie blacks were never given the 40 acres and a mule reparations they were promised. Germany has paid (still pays?) a lot in reparations, the US, not so much. So there is also some legitimacy to the blame for slavery. The US should embrace greater income redistribution, or a least better govt services (equal education funding, health care for the poor, etc) to make up for this.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

The majority of Germans supported Hitler.

The Nazis won a plurality in the only fair election they stood for and then the results of the following election were questionable given that the elections officers were all members of the NSDAP.

A majority went along with Hitler and the NSDAP for a variety of reasons like apathy, indifference, and cowardice. IMHO the vast majority were interested in going about their lives and Hitler ended up garnering tacit support because the German standard of living from 1933 to 1939 was the highest in the world.

I'll compare this to the Western nations today where people are willing to suffer government surveillance that even the Gestapo would've blanched over and they'll willing endure lawless abuse at the hands of law enforcement in the name of 'security'. Where's the majority right now? They're watching the World Series, or football, or they're occupied with porn on the net while a scant few like us on CKA actually give a damn about the important issues of our time.

And, no offense, but by this time next week the majority in Canada will have forgotten about this tragedy yesterday and they'll have moved on to wondering what Kim Kardashian is wearing to some Hollywood gala or they'll be fascinated with the latest 'app' for their phones.

Don't get me wrong here, but if that majority was suddenly inconvenienced by an effective act of the radical moslems I've no doubt they'd applaud as the moslems were marched, en masse, to the abattoir. That way they could get back to Twitter and Instagram.

Forgive me for quoting something from Star Trek but I think it applies:

$1:

Quark: Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don't believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.

The commentary here is on Westerners. My point is that for all I have to say about islam and moslems I can entertain the idea that things may get so bad that even I may find myself protecting some of those people.

Just let the moslems set off a bomb at a World Series or Super Bowl game and then see what happens. You think I'm radical? Just wait until the apathetic middle arises.

[Brenda]

$1:

And, no offense, but by this time next week the majority in Canada will have forgotten about this tragedy yesterday and they'll have moved on to wondering what Kim Kardashian is wearing to some Hollywood gala or they'll be fascinated with the latest 'app' for their phones.

As will the US news have a new flavour of the day they call BREAKING NEWS...

But yes, sadly, you're right.

[andyt]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

The commentary here is on Westerners. My point is that for all I have to say about islam and moslems I can entertain the idea that things may get so bad that even I find myself protecting some of those people.

Just let the moslems set off a bomb at a World Series or Super Bowl game and then see what happens. You think I'm radical? Just wait until the apathetic middle arises.

Good to hear it Bart. The thing is that the hate spewing like on this site makes it more likely that you will have to protect some of those people. We urgently need to find a way to connect with the Muslims who do just want to live in peace. As I say, I think it's risen to the level of Harper addressing the nation, but specifically Muslims. Because I agree with your last para.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

Good to hear it Bart. The thing is that the hate spewing like on this site makes it more likely that you will have to protect some of those people. We urgently need to find a way to connect with the Muslims who do just want to live in peace. As I say, I think it's risen to the level of Harper addressing the nation, but specifically Muslims. Because I agree with your last para.

The hate is due in no small part to the truth of islam being suppressed in the media and even in private speech by the left and the PC crowd.

You can't keep telling people ad nauseum about how 'peaceful' islam is while we keep seeing daily examples of why that's a lie. At some point people reach their breaking point and, as one American commentator noted last night, "Canada has lost her innocence." He said that in reference to Twitter keywords that indicated a radical shift in Canadian attitudes towards islam. No kidding, your countrymen have had a rude awakening to the violent, bloodthirsty, angry, people the left has invited into Canada.

And the comfort they used to have of, "Well, that kind of thing doesn't happen here!" is now gone.

It not only can happen in Canada, it has happened in Canada.

And, like it or not, your countrymen are now taking an assessment of 'diversity' and asking themselves if the price of diversity is worth it.

Even the leftist New York Times is starting to ask some critical questions about their pet moslems:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/world ... .html?_r=0

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

And the comfort they used to have of, "Well, that kind of thing doesn't happen here!" is now gone.

It not only can happen in Canada, it has happened in Canada.

And, like it or not, your countrymen are now taking an assessment of 'diversity' and asking themselves if the price of diversity is worth it.

Even the leftist New York Times is starting to ask some critical questions about their pet moslems:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/world ... .html?_r=0

As is the 'lefty' CBC:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ottawa-par ... -1.2809722

[martin14]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

As is the 'lefty' CBC:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ottawa-par ... -1.2809722

And, as usual, the hacks in the comments are completely OTL.

[DrCaleb]

martin14 martin14:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

As is the 'lefty' CBC:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ottawa-par ... -1.2809722

And, as usual, the hacks in the comments are completely OTL.

I don't read the things posted on light poles, the National Enquirer, or news site comments.

My life is slightly happier because of that policy.

[BeaverFever]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Based on your comments about Islam and moderate Muslims I assume your solution to lynchings would have been to blame all White people for them?

Actually, yes. The whites who sat on their hands and kept silence when these atrocities took place were just as culpable for these crimes as those who committed them.

And when these atrocities were finally dealt with in the 1960's the Federal government literally did hold all white people in the south responsible for those atrocities. For fifty years they could not make changes to voting rules or voting places without Federal approval, the Klan found themselves tirelessly hunted for their crimes, and the civil rights of blacks were aggressively protected often at the cost of the white power structure.

The most awful of the Jim Crow laws, prohibitions on black ownership of firearms, were overturned and the fact of black people being able to arm themselves to defend against the Klan and racist law enforcement went a hell of a long way to making the south a better place to live for everyone.

And, for the record, were it up to me then everyone who was present at a lynching would themselves be tried and executed for first degree murder. I don't care if they were just spectators.

Interesting. Although does this mean that you think "White "is an evil race, or more likely, that that Whites were just evil up until that time? If the latter, then you think that Muslims are not an evil race, but rather are just evil up until this time?

[Alta_redneck]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

"Sun" doesn't quite cut it as legitimate "media" in my books.

... bottom feeders ...

Yep.

Yesterday, I saw lots of tweets and posts on Facebook comparing our media responses with those south of the border and it's apparent by that load of crap that the Sun's coverage was on the same level as CNN & Faux News.

Your talking about credibility, and your going by what you saw posted on Facebook ?

[BRAH]

New Low: Rosie O'Donnell Uses Canadian Terror Attack to Push Gun Control

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2014/10/23/new-low-rosie-odonnell-uses-canadian-terror-attack-push-gun-control
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What a Bitch!

[DrCaleb]

BRAH BRAH:

New Low: Rosie O'Donnell Uses Canadian Terror Attack to Push Gun Control

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2014/10/23/new-low-rosie-odonnell-uses-canadian-terror-attack-push-gun-control
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What a Bitch!

And she lies about it too.

[DrCaleb]

$1:

Ottawa shooting: Canadian Muslims denounce attacks
Canadian Muslim groups have condemned the two deadly attacks this week, saying the incidents have no connection to Islam or its beliefs.

Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, described as a recent Muslim convert, shot and killed a guard at the National War Memorial in Ottawa on Wednesday before launching an attack in the Centre Block of the Parliament Buildings.

This came two days after another recent convert, Martin Couture-Rouleau, struck and killed a Canadian Forces member with a vehicle.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ot ... -1.2810489

[BartSimpson]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Interesting. Although does this mean that you think "White "is an evil race, or more likely, that that Whites were just evil up until that time? If the latter, then you think that Muslims are not an evil race, but rather are just evil up until this time?

What I choose to believe is irrelevant. The facts of life in the South were what they were and they were intolerable. Those days are now behind us because the attitudes of these people have changed. (And a lot of the old racists have simply died off.)

'Muslims' are not a race any more than Catholics or Liberals are a race. Please do not call them a 'race' as that confuses the definition of the term.

Muslims are members of an all-encompassing religious, political, and social movement we know as 'islam'. In many respects it's similar in structure to Soviet or Chinese authoritarianism in it's pervasiveness of a person's life.

And we can judge islam on its alleged 'merits' all the same as we can judge authoritarianism on its merits.

The 'merits' of islam are evident in its adherents. And its adherents are killing people in Canada.

Were we talking about a political party whose followers were known for advocating and committing acts of violence against members of other parties I'm sure you and 99% of Canadians would have no problem making that political party illegal and its followers unwelcome in Canada.

Why should islam be any different?

I'm not asking for discrimination against the Asians, Arabs, Caucasians, and Africans who practice islam, I'm just asking that they be given the choice to renounce islam or to leave and move to a country that is more welcoming to stoning women, beheading gays and non-moslems, and killing soldiers in their own country.

We once did the same to the Nazis in our countries at the start of WW2. They were told to renounce their ideology or to leave. Some left, some stayed. Of the ones who stayed I have not heard of too many going back to being Nazis.

Likewise I think a lot of moslems when faced with the choice of leaving islam or of leaving Canada will choose to leave islam. The others you would probably want to get rid of anyway and I am certain you won't miss them.

It's too soon for that kind of thing to happen. Sadly, I expect there will be more of these attacks and the attacks will become more and more intense until asking these people to choose between civilization and barbarity will become inevitable.

Hopefully that comes before Canada ends up looking like France with entire cities under the defacto rule of sharia law.

[N_Fiddledog]

You might have a Jihad problem…

http://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2014/10/23/ ... d-problem/

"If your nation’s immigration policy actively imports settlers of an anti-human political ideology posing as a religion as opposed to immigrants

If your government and public institutions treat an anti-human political ideology posing as a religion as a race or ethnic group

If the same government that imported the settlers of an anti-human political ideology posing as a religion has to devise tax payer funded programs to teach them not to kill their women

If criticism of an anti-human political ideology posing as a religion is shouted down by cries of racism

If your society’s Fifth Columnist enablers would gleefully suppress free speech to accommodate an anti-human political ideology posing as a religion

If your security services and local police forces spend an inordinate amount of resources on ludicrous outreach efforts to adherents of an anti-human political ideology posing as a religion

If your security services and local police forces spend an inordinate amount of resources on tracking the adherents of an anti-human political ideology posing as a religion

If your security services and local police forces are so overwhelmed by the effort expended exclusively monitoring an anti-human political ideology posing as a religion they are afraid to release information publicly

If your security services are too afraid to even mention a “dread word”

If your security services are so infected by political correctness they begin to collaborate with the enablers of an anti-human political ideology posing as a religion

If your police forces begin to apologize to the very community that spawned terror plots prior to making arrests

If police forces decide publishing The Protocols of the Elders of Zion or equating Jews to Nazis is not a sign of antisemitism and refuse to persue hate crime charges against an anti-human political ideology posing as a religion

If multiculturalism has reached such toxic levels of incoherence it begins to trump common sense by permitting the practice of an anti-human political ideology posing as a religion in your allegedly secular schools

If your politicians begin to actively cultivate a community that spawns a poisonous ideology posing as a religion

If your society will go to great lengths to push Christianity out of the public square but go out of its way to accommodate the adherents of a political ideology posing as a religion

If your media and political class continue to propagate the lie that Jihad refers to inner struggle and that an anti-human political ideology posing as a religion is all about “Peace”

If your society is so blinded to the reality of an anti-human political ideology posing as a religion that even Muslims call for mosques to be closed down and a moratorium declared on Muslim immigration

Then you might have a Jihad problem….and you live in Canada."