[BeaverFever]

andyt andyt:

I guess the above is why people want to call me racist because I'm against large scale immigration. It's got nothing to do with what CDN wrote above, it's that it makes no sense to me to import so many people when we have Canadians out of work. We also last year had 450,000 temp workers in Canada. Insane. At least it sounds like people are waking up a bit with the Chinese miners situation.

Reducing the number of immigrants would also help with any problems of assimilation, because it would put more pressure on them to fit in rather than forming ethnic enclaves. As far as taking freebies from the govt, I would say it's First Nations, Native born and then immigrants in that order. The people sitting on pogy in the Maritimes, those are white, native born Canadians. Welfare isn't an option for anybody, but certainly immigrants use it less than native born Canadians. (Is my impression, doubt anybody keeps racial stats here). Immigrants, by their nature, will be more inclined to push to get ahead. That's why they come here. (But it's true that immigrants since the 80's are having more trouble improving their lot than immigrants before that time, ie immigrants mainly from Europe. Language and cultural issues probably play a role here, maybe also that the 80's is when the middle class started having the shit kicked out of it.)

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Hamilton Spectator
10 myths about immigration
By Danielle Wong , Profiles by Vidya Kauri Sun Oct 16 2011 18:41:28

A quarter of Hamilton's current residents are born outside the country and Statistics Canada anticipates that figure will jump 3 per cent by 2031.

But despite that large percentage, newcomers settling into their lives still encounter discrimination and social exclusion and don't always feel welcome. There are common beliefs and assumptions about newcomers that make their integration more difficult.

The Spectator asked local settlement workers, city staff and ethnic community leaders to highlight the top myths about immigrants they come across. We arrived at 10 common misconceptions and attitudes and looked to address them with recent research.

The City of Hamilton recognizes both the necessity of attracting immigrants and the challenges they face when they arrive here. The Hamilton Immigration Partnership Council (HIPC) was created in 2009 to “strengthen, broaden and enlarge” the presence of immigrants in the city. The process involves identifying and addressing problems that newcomers face as well as showcasing immigrants' contributions to the community.

Citizenship and Immigration Canada recently held a series of cross-country consultations with stakeholders and the public to determine appropriate immigration levels and a suitable mix of economic class, family class and protected persons.

Rather than being just a big-city phenomenon, more than a quarter of the Canadian population in total is expected to be foreign-born in 30 years. A federal government backgrounder says Canada needs to increase immigration to almost 4 per cent of our population from the current 0.8 per cent to support our “old-age dependency ratio.”

“There are lots of myths and misconceptions around immigrants and immigration,” HIPC program manager Tim Rees said, adding these perceptions exist because immigration changes “the nature of our community” and affects our personal identity.

“There's always a fear of the unknown,” he said.

Dr. Bruce Newbold, a professor of geography at McMaster University who has studied the subject of immigrants and homelessness, cites another reason.

“You hear the worst cases. They are the cases that get brought to our attention. But you never hear the good pieces associated with (immigrants). The arguments that run counter to those myths — we hear those less.”

Success stories are important for demonstrating that newcomers are valuable to the city, Rees said. “They contribute to the economy and they contribute in all sorts of other ways as well — to the social and cultural lives and vibrancy of the city.”

Here are 10 typical assumptions about newcomers and stories of immigrants who have defied them.


Myths



1. Immigrants steal jobs from residents born in Canada


The disavowal of foreign credentials or work experience often makes it difficult for newcomers to compete with others who have lived in the area longer.

The unemployment rate among recent immigrants in Hamilton in 2006 was 11.5 per cent. That’s twice as high as the rate for nonimmigrants. The gap in employment becomes smaller the longer the newcomer lives in Canada.

Almost half of recent immigrant families to Hamilton have an income below $40,000 and have a child poverty rate of more than 50 per cent, the highest of any subpopulation in the city.

Immigrant women, in particular, have a difficult experience finding work, as the unemployment rates for women in this group between ages 15 and 24 was about 19.9 per cent in 2006. This figure was twice the rate for women in this age range born in Canada.

Christine Wong, a settlement support worker with the St. Joseph’s Immigrant Women’s Centre, knows many immigrants who have lowered their standards when it comes to finding jobs and have taken positions that pay about 30 per cent less than the mainstream wages.

“We are at a disadvantage when we compete for jobs with the locals … We don’t have the local experience,” she said, adding many workplaces do not recognize foreign credentials. In fact, more than half of newcomers to Hamilton end up working entry-level jobs such as food-counter attendants, truck drivers and cashiers.


2. Newcomers are a drain on society, are lazy and tend to live off social assistance


Recent immigrants living in poverty depend less on social assistance and more on family support than other impoverished Canadians.

Only 16 per cent of immigrant families living in poverty were receiving social assistance benefits in 2004, compared to 33 per cent of Canadian-born low-income families who received benefits from social assistance programs.

That year, a third of low-income working-age recent immigrants were considered working poor, just a bit higher than the 27 per cent of other low-income persons who reported enough hours to be considered part of the working poor group.

Statistics suggest that immigrants bring skills and education and want to use them as quickly and “effectively” as they can, said Tim Rees, the city’s program manager of immigration. “And it’s difficult. There are barriers,” he said. “They want to work. They want to feel part of our community.”

A report released in 2007 revealed that the percentage of low-income, recent immigrant adults who had work-limiting disabilities was 11 per cent, significantly lower than the 26 per cent of other low-income Canadians who could not work because of their disabilities.

The definition of “immigrant” comes into play again in this discussion, Wong said.

Refugee claimants tend to rely on social assistance more because of the language and education barriers to finding employment, but many people do not differentiate between them and other categories of newcomers, she said.

But 60 per cent of newcomers recruited by Citizenship and Immigration Canada fall within economic class, while 26 per cent are family class and 14 per cent are refugees.


3. Newcomers to Canada are unskilled or uneducated


Actually, immigrants tend to come into the country with more education than their Canadian-born counterparts.

In 2006, more than half of the recent immigrants reported having university degrees, while only 19 per cent of the Canadian population had obtained one. Fewer immigrants were also without a high school diploma (9 per cent) compared to the Canadian average of 23 per cent.

In Hamilton, almost 40 per cent of working-age newcomers arriving in the city from 2003 to 2008 had a university degree or higher. More than 10 per cent had a master’s degree and 2.5 per cent had a doctorate.

This means that these recent immigrants were twice as likely to have a university degree, compared to other Hamiltonians ages 15 to 64.

Furthermore, reports show that low-income recent immigrants have usually completed higher levels of education compared to most other low-income adults.

In 2007, more than a third of immigrants considered to be in the low-income category had a university degree, while most other low-income adults had not graduated from high school and only 12 per cent had completed university.

Studies have shown that recent immigrants are also much more likely to be overqualified for their jobs and to stay overqualified in their employment positions for longer than Canadian-born residents.

A Statistics Canada report released in 2006 found more than 50 per cent of immigrants who had been in Canada 10 years or less with a university degree had worked in a job requiring only a high school education.

In comparison, 28 per cent of the Canadian-born population was found in the same situation.

However, an estimated 40 per cent of immigrants to Canada are working in the field for which they received training. For example, in 2008, more than 21 per cent of all physicians practicing in Canada were trained outside of the country.

In 2007, more than 6,000 entrepreneurs and investors became permanent residents in the country

GRAPHIC: Who are Canada's New Arrivals?

4. There are too many


Canada’s population is expected to increase to 35 million by 2015, but this is actually a decrease in annual growth rate.

While the rate between 1996 and 2005 was 1.1 per cent, the figure for the span between 2006 and 2015 is expected to be 0.9 per cent. This is attributed to the decline in the natural increase in population, which is births minus deaths, caused by low fertility rates and the slower increase in life expectancy.

International migration made up two-thirds of the country’s population growth in 2006. And immigration is expected to contribute to the country’s population growth, accounting for about 67.5 per cent of the population increase by 2015, cumulatively.

As the population grows, so will the country’s labour force. By 2031, it is expected to grow to a number between 20.5 million and 22.5 million people, up from 18.5 million in 2010.

In that same time frame, about a third of the labour force is expected to be foreign-born. In Ontario, this figure is projected to be 41 per cent.

But if Canada closed its doors to immigrants over the next two decades, the labour force would be reduced to less than 18 million by 2031 and start shrinking in 2017.

Locally, Hamilton does not have enough locally-raised people to fill the 29,000 jobs expected to be created by economic expansion and 21,000 positions made available because of retirement between 2006 and 2016.


5. Immigrants do not know how to speak English or do not want to learn to speak it


Almost all recent newcomers to Hamilton have a knowledge of one of Canada’s two official languages. About 92 per cent of immigrants arriving between 2001 and 2006 knew English or French.

About 30 per cent of immigrants say they speak English or French at home, while 62 per cent speak another language. The remaining newcomers speak a combination of official and other languages in their homes.

A Statistics Canada study released in 2005 found 58 per cent of recent immigrants surveyed said they were able to speak English well or very well after being in the country for six months. After four years, 69 per cent reported this level of English proficiency.

The more proficient an immigrant’s English is, the better the chances are of being employed. Those who reported speaking English well or very well were more likely to be hired in an “appropriate” job than those who indicated speaking the language at a lower level.

Italian is the most-spoken unofficial language in Hamilton.

Eighty per cent of the over a million newcomers to arrive between 2001 and 2006 spoke something other than English or French as their first language. The largest linguistic increases were the Chinese dialects — which were Canada’s third-most common mother tongue group — Punjabi, Arabic, Urdu, Tagalog and Tamil.

However, many times the myth that immigrants cannot speak English is based on an assumption about the newcomer’s accent, says Arsim Aliu, the YMCA’s immigrant settlement services program manager. “In fact, that person speaks very well in English, (but) you create that perception based on that person’s look or where they come from.”

Proficiency in one of the two languages is one of the six selection factors for skilled workers, who are assessed on their ability to listen, speak, read and write in English or French.

Skilled workers and professionals have to do an approved language test.


6. Immigrants increase the crime rates in the neighbourhoods in which they live


Research indicates that immigrants to Canada have lower overall crime rates than those who are nonimmigrants.

Furthermore, as the number of newcomers to Canada surges, overall crime in the country has continued to drop.

A study in the 1990s by the Correctional Service of Canada found that immigrants in all regions and age groups were under-represented among those serving two or more years in federal penitentiaries.

Stereotypes linking ethnic minorities and crime are formed because the issue of racial visibility, Wong said. “Because immigrants are visible — by their names, their look or their skin colour, people just jump to conclusions: ‘Oh, they are immigrants. They are criminals.’”

In fact, the immigrant is often used as the scapegoat for dominant society’s anxieties over identity, Rees said. “We don’t have the comfort level, the confidence necessarily, to live in a diverse and multicultural, multireligious community,” he said.

“And, partly, it’s our own insecurities and so the immigrant is an easy target.”


7. Immigrants do not want to integrate into “Canadian society”


Immigrants are more likely to become Canadian citizens than eligible newcomers in other similar countries.

A study published in 2005 found that 84 per cent of immigrants who had lived in Canada for at least three years were Canadian citizens in 2001. Meanwhile, in the U.K., only half of the immigrants who had lived in the country for five years were British citizens, and only 40 per cent of foreign-born residents had become citizens in the States.

Eligible African and Asian immigrants in Canada are more likely to obtain citizenship than those coming from the U.S. or Europe.

According to the 2006 census, 73 per cent of people born in another country have become Canadian citizens. In Hamilton, 80 per cent of immigrants have obtained citizenship.

“Compared to other countries, immigrants become Canadian citizens at a much higher rate than other places and as soon as they possibly can, as soon as they’re eligible,” Rees said.

“In terms of level of enthusiasm and level of commitment on the part of newcomers, they absolutely want to be part of Canadian society and identify strongly with Canadian society. And the symbolic importance of becoming a Canadian citizen is a good measure of that commitment.”

Rees also pointed to the increasing trend of mixed marriages in the country as an interesting phenomenon.

According to Statistics Canada, the number of mixed-race married and common-law couples had increased by a third in 2006 compared to 2001. The large majority of these couples were of a white person and a visible minority. Japanese people were the most likely to be part of a mixed union.

GRAPHIC: Newcomers: What They Earn

GRAPHIC: How Educated are Newcomers

8. Newcomers are all the same; they all come with similar experiences


There are various definitions of immigrants and refugees.

An economic immigrant is selected based on his or her skills and ability to contribute to the country’s economy. This category includes skilled workers, business people and provincial nominees. About 41 per cent of the immigrants who came to Hamilton from 2003 to 2008 were in the economic class.

Family class immigrants consist of close relatives of a sponsor in Canada, including spouses, common-law partners or conjugal partners, dependent children, parents and grandparents. About 27 per cent of the immigrants to Hamilton from 2003 to 2008 were in this class.

Business immigrants include there groups: entrepreneurs, self-employed people and investors. Business immigrants’ permanent residency status is assessed on their ability to establish themselves economically in Canada.

A convention refugee is a person who is outside of the country they originally lived in because they are unable or, by reason of fear of persecution for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a social group of political opinion, unwilling to return.

Government-assisted refugees are selected for resettlement in the country as members of the Humanitarian-protected Persons Abroad classes and receive assistance from Ottawa.

A refugee protection claimant is someone seeking the protection of Canada upon arrival. He or she can apply for permanent residence when a final ruling is made that he or she is a “protected person.”

Privately-sponsored refugees are not sponsored by the government but are selected from abroad and receive resettlement assistance from other sources.

Foreign workers are in the country on a temporary basis and must have employment authorization.


9. Newcomers seclude themselves in geographical clusters or ghettos in cities


A 2004 Statistics Canada study that examined the three largest metropolitan areas in the country noted a large increase in the tendency of visible minorities to live in the same neighbourhood. But this trend is not about a desire to be separated from mainstream society.

Within these cities, minority neighbourhoods — which are areas in which a single visible minority group makes up more than 30 per cent of the population — exploded in a decade, rising to 254 in 2001, up from the six that existed in 1981.

The report found that the development of these neighbourhoods was largely due to the population growth through immigration over the past 20 years. The residential concentration of South Asians in Montreal and Vancouver and Chinese people in Toronto made up more than 40 per cent of the increased tendency to live within “own group” neighbourhoods.

But research shows the expansion of ethnic neighbourhoods is more a product of the increasing percentage of the group’s share in the city’s population than a rise in its overall residential concentration. Co-residence of members from different groups is a common feature in these neighbourhoods.

The concentration of newcomers in a particular geographical area does not mean they do not want to be included in mainstream society, Rees said.

“Partly it’s the housing market,” he said. “Newcomers (are) struggling with finding jobs and don’t have much money so they’re looking for the cheapest places to live. So there’s a tendency to congregate as a consequence of the housing market rather than an inclination to want to live within their own community.”

In Hamilton, there are various districts in which immigrants have established communities and ethnic-based businesses over the years. For example, one out of five people in Stoney Creek have an Italian background. In the section bordered by Green Road, Barton Street, Millen Road and Highway 8, 38 per cent of the population is of Italian descent.

In city’s North End, the neighbourhood bounded by Cannon Street and York Boulevard to the water from and from Wentworth Street to the high-level bridge, is 19 per cent Portuguese heritage.

Immigrants also live together because it provides them with more support from others who speak their language, Wong said. “For other lookers … they might assume they like to live together (because) they are not sociable with Canadian society. But it’s not true. It’s because of the social supports they get from their own community, mainly that’s the reason,” she said.


10. Newcomers receive special treatment (i.e. the social assistance they receive is higher than some Canadians’ wages, they don’t have to pay taxes)


“It’s very easy to use newcomers and immigrants as an easy population to blame, to ignore, to dismiss, to think that they’re getting unfair advantage over the rest of us. And they don’t,” Rees said.

Immigrants are required to pay the same taxes as all Canadian citizens and must also declare their income from all sources both from within the country and outside. They are also entitled to the same tax credits as other Canadians, including the Child Tax Benefit and the HST credit. They do not receive additional tax credits.

While low-income recent immigrants in 2004 seemed to be better off than other Canadians in terms of their income situation — they would have needed 32.5 per cent more family income to escape poverty while other low-income Canadians would have needed a 36.7 per cent raise — immigrant families were less reliant on social assistance than others in the category.

The federal government provides several programs to help refugees settle into their new country. The assistance available is often not long-term and not given to those who can sustain themselves or their families.

The resettlement assistance program, for example, helps refugees pay for temporary accommodation, basic household items and general orientation for up to one year or until they become self-sufficient.

The immigration loans program lends out funds to refugees for travel documents, transportation to Canada and costs of medical examinations abroad. Loans are awarded based on the applicants’ situation and their ability to pay it back with interest.

In addition, the interim federal health program is for refugee claimants, resettled refugees and victims of human trafficking who are unable to pay for health care. Parties receive benefits under this program until they are eligible for provincial coverage or a private health plan.

Sources: Statistics Canada, Hamilton Immigration Partnership Council, Human Resources and Skills Development Canada, Hamilton’s Vital Signs

Sidebar
Immigrant profile: By the numbers

20 percentage of Canadians (2006) who are foreign born, the highest it has been in 75 years

25 percentage of Hamilton’s population born outside of Canada

3,500 Average number of newcomers to Hamilton each year. The peak was 2005 when it received about 4,500

73 Percentage of newcomers to Canada who have become Canadian citizens (as of 2006 census). In Hamilton, 80 per cent of immigrants have obtained citizenship.

16 Percentage per cent of immigrant families living in poverty who were receiving social assistance benefits in 2004. That’s compared to 33 per cent of Canadian-born low-income families who received benefits from social assistance programs.

40 Percentage of newcomers (2003-2008) of working age had a university degree or higher. The rate for Canadian born residents is 19%.

52 Percentage of newcomers who end up in entry level jobs (such as retail sales, food service, cashiers and truck drivers).

28 Percentage of newcomers with foreign credentials who received recognition of those credentials with four years of arrival.

13 Unemployment rate for new immigrants in Hamilton, double that of the general population.

42 Poverty rate for recent immigrants in Hamilton compared to 14% for the general population.

1/2 Median income of recent immigrants to Hamilton, compared to the Canadian born population, about $13,000 compared to 26,000.

2031 Estimated year when one third of persons in the labour force could be foreign-born

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/article/609860--10-myths-about-immigration

[Gunnair]

Interesting read.

[BeaverFever]

...Although with a name like "Wong", you know the author's part of the anti-white conspiracy....

[Gunnair]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

...Although with a name like "Wong", you know the author's part of the anti-white conspiracy....

Certainly some of the ire at temp workers is catching on out here with the northern BC mine that wanted to bring in 200 Chinese miners without hiring any of the locals because the Chinese workers have special skills - you know, bow hunting skills, nunchuck skills...

[andyt]

As for 1, why bring them in if they can't get their credentials recognized? It does neither them nor us any good. In fact some immigrants have sued the feds for being sold a bag of goods.

What's magical about maintaining our growth rates. We've had times of high immigration and tims we shut off the tap before. Why bring in people when we don't have jobs? Why keep magical thinking about growth, when the whole planet should be thinking about limits to growth and how to deal with them?

Also she creates the false dichotomy between not allowing any immigration and the huge number we take now. Cut back immigration to 50,000 a year say, until unemployment is lower. And, does it really make sense that we're now allowing in 450,000 temp workers a year on top of immigration? That's 700,000 people a year coming here. We're not creating that many jobs, why import people to take them?

[BeaverFever]

Gunnair Gunnair:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

...Although with a name like "Wong", you know the author's part of the anti-white conspiracy....

Certainly some of the ire at temp workers is catching on out here with the northern BC mine that wanted to bring in 200 Chinese miners without hiring any of the locals because the Chinese workers have special skills - you know, bow hunting skills, nunchuck skills...

I'll say I have a problem with inappropriate use of Temp workers, not because I don't want foreigners here but because it is, as you described, often abused by employers in order to skirt labour laws that would otherwise apply to Canadian workers and pay wages below the minimum.

[Gunnair]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Gunnair Gunnair:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

...Although with a name like "Wong", you know the author's part of the anti-white conspiracy....

Certainly some of the ire at temp workers is catching on out here with the northern BC mine that wanted to bring in 200 Chinese miners without hiring any of the locals because the Chinese workers have special skills - you know, bow hunting skills, nunchuck skills...

I'll say I have a problem with inappropriate use of Temp workers, not because I don't want foreigners here but because it is, as you described, often abused by employers in order to skirt labour laws that would otherwise apply to Canadian workers and pay wages below the minimum.

Yep. That being said, I'm torn by the EI users who won't move for work as well.

[Brenda]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Yep. That being said, I'm torn by the EI users who won't move for work as well.

On that... What do you think of Cougar's story? He moved 1100 kms with wife and kids and got screwed...

[BeaverFever]

I don't know if that's true though...EI only pays a maximum of 55% of your pre-unemployment earnings, up to a max of $485 per week. The benefit is reduced depending on your employement history. I don't think there are too many people "coasting" on those terms.

That said, I was unemployed for almost 4 months in 2009. I had substantial savings so was able to supplement my weekly EI benefit from those savings to maintain a reasonably decent standard of living until I found a job that I actually wanted. I wasn't about to go work at some menial job for minimum wage and get shit on by society. Maybe it would have come to that at some point, but luckily it didn't during my time off work. Still, I had incentive not to squander all my savings and of course I did cut back on many of my usual discretionary expenses and entertainment so as soon as I found an appropriate job I took it.

[Brenda]

It's hard living on $485/week for a family, let alone travel...

[BeaverFever]

You're not allowed to travel while on EI, with certian exceptions, such as death in the family.

[Gunnair]

Brenda Brenda:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Yep. That being said, I'm torn by the EI users who won't move for work as well.

On that... What do you think of Cougar's story? He moved 1100 kms with wife and kids and got screwed...

Haven't read it, but I will.

[Brenda]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

You're not allowed to travel while on EI, with certian exceptions, such as death in the family.

How are you going to go to your interview 500 kms away then?

[Brenda]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Brenda Brenda:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Yep. That being said, I'm torn by the EI users who won't move for work as well.

On that... What do you think of Cougar's story? He moved 1100 kms with wife and kids and got screwed...

Haven't read it, but I will.

What is comes down to (without all the complaining...) is that he found a job as a hotel accountant 1100 kms away, was supposed to pay $200 in rent for a room per week, decided after 3 weeks (of training) to bring his wife and kids to town (who had stayed behind), he was cut down to 15 hours instead of 40 after his training (which he was not told), he complained, and got laid off (or was told to leave) in his probation period. The hotel owner hired someone else instead, while he was working there already, but was in his probation period...

[ShepherdsDog]

Brenda Brenda:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

You're not allowed to travel while on EI, with certian exceptions, such as death in the family.

How are you going to go to your interview 500 kms away then?

skype or telephone. Quite common nowadays