[fifeboy]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

CHRC tribunals are unconstitutional...didn't seem to slow them down. Constitutional rights are ephemeral if the people lack the ability to ensure their rights aren't violated or revoked.

Shep, last time I looked, Canada was a land ruled by law. If someone thinks that a law is unconstitutional, the Supreme Court is there review the law and decide on it's acceptability. CHRC... if you don't like it take it to Court. If the GR is unconstitutional, someone will take it and it will be decided. That's how it works. You, just because you don't like it, don't have the right to violate the law. Bart would have us take up arms because he does not like a law. Not me. I think I will wait for something more important than the gun registry or CHRC tribunals that we don't like.

[ShepherdsDog]

talk to Ezra Levant about his rights were trampled by the CHRC star chambers.

[fifeboy]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

talk to Ezra Levant about his rights were trampled by the CHRC star chambers.

Don't talk to me, talk to these folks.\

[ShepherdsDog]

Why? I give to Sally Ann every Christmas as it is.

[Public_Domain]

fifeboy fifeboy:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

talk to Ezra Levant about his rights were trampled by the CHRC star chambers.

Don't talk to me, talk to these folks.\

I'd give these guys $10 to stand on my lawn and sing 'Silent Night'.

[ASLplease]

fifeboy fifeboy:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

CHRC tribunals are unconstitutional...didn't seem to slow them down. Constitutional rights are ephemeral if the people lack the ability to ensure their rights aren't violated or revoked.

Shep, last time I looked, Canada was a land ruled by law. If someone thinks that a law is unconstitutional, the Supreme Court is there review the law and decide on it's acceptability. CHRC... if you don't like it take it to Court. If the GR is unconstitutional, someone will take it and it will be decided. That's how it works. You, just because you don't like it, don't have the right to violate the law. Bart would have us take up arms because he does not like a law. Not me. I think I will wait for something more important than the gun registry or CHRC tribunals that we don't like.

thats been one of my points from the begining, The Oakes test has yet to be applied all of the various components and restrictions of C68

[fifeboy]

ASLplease ASLplease:

thats been one of my points from the begining, The Oakes test has yet to be applied all of the various components and restrictions of C68

Well than, do us all a favour and STFU until the "Oakes test" has been applied to all the various components and restrictions of c-68. I will go along with what the Supreme Court says, will you?

[EyeBrock]

ASLplease ASLplease:

fifeboy fifeboy:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

CHRC tribunals are unconstitutional...didn't seem to slow them down. Constitutional rights are ephemeral if the people lack the ability to ensure their rights aren't violated or revoked.

Shep, last time I looked, Canada was a land ruled by law. If someone thinks that a law is unconstitutional, the Supreme Court is there review the law and decide on it's acceptability. CHRC... if you don't like it take it to Court. If the GR is unconstitutional, someone will take it and it will be decided. That's how it works. You, just because you don't like it, don't have the right to violate the law. Bart would have us take up arms because he does not like a law. Not me. I think I will wait for something more important than the gun registry or CHRC tribunals that we don't like.

thats been one of my points from the begining, The Oakes test has yet to be applied all of the various components and restrictions of C68

Why do you keep misquoting Regina Vs Oakes? Oakes was about witholding a right. Since when has owning a firearm been a constitutional right? I must have missed that class.

[Gunnair]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

ASLplease ASLplease:

fifeboy fifeboy:

thats been one of my points from the begining, The Oakes test has yet to be applied all of the various components and restrictions of C68

Why do you keep misquoting Regina Vs Oakes? Oakes was about witholding a right. Since when has owning a firearm been a constitutional right? I must have missed that class.

Or having to register it a removal of the right to own one.

[ASLplease]

Eyebrock, this has already been spelled out for you in the "Is gun ownership a right in Canada" thread.

in short, the charter has sections that recognize that we have rights that exist outside of the charter. there are several presidance setting cases, where the charter has been used to affirm the rights granted by other canadian and british documents.

I'd love to discuss with you the significance of the Oakes Test. Its a set of guidelines that can be used to evaluated the legitimacy of ANY legislation...ie BillC68.

in one case, the charter was used to affirm that a traditional aboriginal right was not extinguished by the government when it was regulated out of existance. the same sections of the charter could very well be used to affirm the traditional rights of non aboriginal canadians.

[Public_Domain]

The conversation won't die till someone shoots it.

[ASLplease]

PS are you still avoiding me? where is trhat data that supports you assertions?

[ASLplease]

fifeboy fifeboy:

ASLplease ASLplease:

thats been one of my points from the begining, The Oakes test has yet to be applied all of the various components and restrictions of C68

Well than, do us all a favour and STFU until the "Oakes test" has been applied to all the various components and restrictions of c-68. I will go along with what the Supreme Court says, will you?

No and No

[ASLplease]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Why do you keep misquoting Regina Vs Oakes? Oakes was about witholding a right. Since when has owning a firearm been a constitutional right? I must have missed that class.

you must have missed alot more than 1 class. this small statement that you wrote already tells me that you dont even have a wikipedia understanding of the Oakes test.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._v._Oakes

[Gunnair]

ASLplease ASLplease:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Why do you keep misquoting Regina Vs Oakes? Oakes was about witholding a right. Since when has owning a firearm been a constitutional right? I must have missed that class.

you must have missed alot more than 1 class. this small statement that you wrote already tells me that you dont even have a wikipedia understanding of the Oakes test.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._v._Oakes

I have a feeling that I'm not the only one to see you as a petulant little twit with an entirely churlish persona.

You should try growing up a bit...