[mikewood86]

So how long until people push for the anthem to be completely out of this school? Whats to stop them now from changing everything they want? I'm afraid this will open a can of worms if the decision is not reversed. This is how small demands turn into something bigger and bigger. Next it could be not learning about Canada in history, or about War in history because someone doesn't agree with it. Then whats to stop people from bitching about Canada Day and getting something changed? It's really quite sad to think about.

You can't make everyone happy and I find it highly selfish to come into a school and stop the anthem which was playing long before you got there.

Solutions since they are the minority: leave the room, leave the school, leave the town, leave the province, leave the country. Take a pick.

[DanCarneal]

This is like the U.S. trying to get the Pledge of Allegiance (sp?) out of school.

I personally think two parents shouldn't be enough to influence a principal on such a decision. I love O Canada so much I've even thought about trying to get it on my MP3 Player.

[Tricks]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

True, but I have a medical record history of it...

No.... you don't.

[DerbyX]

Tricks Tricks:

Oh and Derby, as a fellow Atheist, I find you comparing Patriotism with religion pretty fucking insulting.

I imagine they feel the same way. Its insulting that patriotism should be forced on people as much as it is religion being forced on people.

[Public_Domain]

[Public_Domain]

[Gunnair]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Tricks Tricks:

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Exactly.

I'd like to know how the hell that, of all songs, 'O Canada' is somehow some
offencive Satan-worshipping war-mongering song that will drive children away
from their other beliefs.

When I find, I'm going to whatever house of prayer they have and blaring our national anthem with a stereo.

Lmfao, I would have thought you'd help me burn it down,

Weren`t you the same person complaining about people beating you for being a red headed step child.

[Tricks]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Tricks Tricks:

Oh and Derby, as a fellow Atheist, I find you comparing Patriotism with religion pretty fucking insulting.

I imagine they feel the same way. Its insulting that patriotism should be forced on people as much as it is religion being forced on people.

It's not being forced. Listening to a song every morning is not being forced. They don't have to sing. They don't have to agree with it.

[Tricks]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Tricks Tricks:

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

True, but I have a medical record history of it...

No.... you don't.

Yes... Actually, I do. Not a violent record or anything, it was treated.
And I'm pretty certain we've talked about this before.
Let's not make this into some truth debate, lol. If you don't believe me,
whatever, I'm not going to show you my medical records.
It's the internet, lol.

From what I have seen of you, you don't have enough of an issue to get off by reason of insanity in a court of law. You don't understand how fucked in the head people are when they succeed in pleading that. Plus, even if you did, you would still be incarcerated, just in a mental hospital, for possibly longer than a normal sentence.

[DerbyX]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

DerbyX DerbyX:

Tricks Tricks:

Oh and Derby, as a fellow Atheist, I find you comparing Patriotism with religion pretty fucking insulting.

I imagine they feel the same way. Its insulting that patriotism should be forced on people as much as it is religion being forced on people.

But for the love of...

This is a country. Patriotism is what keeps it alive.

Religion is what keeps CHURCHES alive.

Would it be insulting if Christians were forcing it on some nay-sayers who walked into their church?

No! They are in the church! Where Religion is, and reigns!

You are in Canada. Where Patriotism is, and reigns.

Personal faith is what keeps churches alive. Forced faith has been behind great tragedy.

The same arguments are made for "installing" religious beliefs in children as you are for installing patriotism.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/mcloud.asp

Canada is about freedom and choice and by honouring that we do more to install patriotism then listening to anthems daily.

[mtbr]

DerbyX DerbyX:

I imagine they feel the same way. Its insulting that patriotism should be forced on people as much as it is religion being forced on people.

nobody is forcing anything on anybody. They can shut their pieholes for 2 minutes while the rest of the school sings. Why should the whole school have to bend over for a couple of fucking liberals crybabies!

[DerbyX]

Tricks Tricks:

DerbyX DerbyX:

Tricks Tricks:

Oh and Derby, as a fellow Atheist, I find you comparing Patriotism with religion pretty fucking insulting.

I imagine they feel the same way. Its insulting that patriotism should be forced on people as much as it is religion being forced on people.

It's not being forced. Listening to a song every morning is not being forced. They don't have to sing. They don't have to agree with it.

Thats exactly what they said about prayer word for word. They made speeches about how nobody was forcing anybody to pray just because they were listening to a religous prayer. They said that just because christian prayers were being heard my non-christians didn't mean they had to agree with it. We were free to tune out all we wanted but why should a few people dictate to a christian majority who wanted to hear daily affirmations of their faith said allowed so that they won't lose it.

The arguments are identical.

[DerbyX]

mtbr mtbr:

DerbyX DerbyX:

I imagine they feel the same way. Its insulting that patriotism should be forced on people as much as it is religion being forced on people.

nobody is forcing anything on anybody. They can shut their pieholes for 2 minutes while the rest of the school sings. Why should the whole school have to bend over for a couple of fucking liberals crybabies!

liberals again eh?

The same thing was said about prayer. They are free to sing O Canada to themselves all they want too without any need to have it blasted over the PA.

[mtbr]

DerbyX DerbyX:

mtbr mtbr:

DerbyX DerbyX:

I imagine they feel the same way. Its insulting that patriotism should be forced on people as much as it is religion being forced on people.

nobody is forcing anything on anybody. They can shut their pieholes for 2 minutes while the rest of the school sings. Why should the whole school have to bend over for a couple of fucking liberals crybabies!

liberals again eh?

The same thing was said about prayer. They are free to sing O Canada to themselves all they want too without any need to have it blasted over the PA.

BS they can shut the hell up while it's being played they won't die....if they don't like it.. tough ..they can fuck off.

[DerbyX]

mtbr mtbr:

BS they can shut the hell up while it's being played they won't die....if they don't like it.. tough ..they can fuck off.

The same was said about prayer.