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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:14 am
 


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Wasn't to any good German prior to and during WW11 either.



World War 11? 8O I knew I shouldn't have slept in last week! :lol:



Sorry been up for ever it seems pulling a lot of hrs at work :)


Just teasing you...reminds me of the Simpsons episode where they look at Lisa's life in 2010.

Moe (To Lisa's British fiance): A Brit huh? We saved your asses in WW2!

Fiance: Well, we saved yours in WW3!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:04 pm
 


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ust teasing you...reminds me of the Simpsons episode where they look at Lisa's life in 2010.

Moe (To Lisa's British fiance): A Brit huh? We saved your asses in WW2!

Fiance: Well, we saved yours in WW3!

Yeah I know when you pointed it out I did the hommer DUH. :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:05 pm
 


Side note 1 more hr and I can actualy go home and sleeeeeepppppp!!!!!!! Till I have to be back in at 7am-3pm then back at 11pm to 3pm. Beer good, chocolate good, work bad. XD

and no thats not a type those are my actual hrs over the next 2 days.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:13 pm
 


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If you've ever read my posts you know I was an MP in the army and worked corrections after that. With that said I found some interesting things in the criminal codes particularly for Eratic driving. Going the speed limit on a cloudy day can be eratic driving. Clouds in the sky limit the sight distance thus you should slow down. By driving the legal limit you are driving eratic. Not useing ones turn singnal is not just illegal but falls under eratic driving. Hesitating at a light when it turns green or taking off imediately, either way is eratic driving. There are tons of more examples basicly anything you do while driving can be considered eratic driving. Now this is for the state of texas only I dont know about any other states or Canada but down here that term scares the hell out of me when used to given reason for a new law.

So you all fine for being pulled over for eratic driving? Then being told you must take a breath test?

Let me repeat myself. I'll happily get pulled over every day and 3 times on Sunday. Driving is a privilege, not a right.

You are correct driving is a privilege. So I would also assume you would not mind carrrying papers IDing exactly who you are and where you live with you constantly and produce it on demand to any police officer who asks for it? You know its not realy that big of a deal. Wasn't to any good German prior to and during WW11 either.

Wow, that's quite a leap to make. Yer comparing drunk driving legislation to nazi Germany?? ROTFL


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:19 pm
 


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Wow, that's quite a leap to make. Yer comparing drunk driving legislation to nazi Germany??


I'm comparing random stoping and searching to random stoping of ppl by Nazi Germany.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:23 pm
 


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Wow, that's quite a leap to make. Yer comparing drunk driving legislation to nazi Germany??


I'm comparing random stoping and searching to random stoping of ppl by Nazi Germany.


Well that's just an asinine comparison.

Also, Eyebrock, I know it's a stretch between articulating searching for further grounds of the offence in the backseat and just having a good ol' peep, that's why I said a good officer would forgo any talk of evidence gathering and stick to officer safety arguments. Why open up a messy can of worms when you don't have to? Just ask Sgt "Cause-A-Feeney". All he had to say was that he went into the trailer because Feeney was in a goddamn violent car crash and he feared he was bleeding to death rather than the circular logic of going into arrest him for the evidence he needed to arrest him for the evidence he needed to arrest him.

I'm just happy people here are referring to case-law authority rather than puking up opinion.


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Wow, that's quite a leap to make. Yer comparing drunk driving legislation to nazi Germany??


I'm comparing random stoping and searching to random stoping of ppl by Nazi Germany.


Well that's just an asinine comparison.

Also, Eyebrock, I know it's a stretch between articulating searching for further grounds of the offence in the backseat and just having a good ol' peep, that's why I said a good officer would forgo any talk of evidence gathering and stick to officer safety arguments. Why open up a messy can of worms when you don't have to? Just ask Sgt "Cause-A-Feeney". All he had to say was that he went into the trailer because Feeney was in a goddamn violent car crash and he feared he was bleeding to death rather than the circular logic of going into arrest him for the evidence he needed to arrest him for the evidence he needed to arrest him.

I'm just happy people here are referring to case-law authority rather than puking up opinion.


It's funny you should mention Feeney. I was talking with a defence type chum on Feeney and he said that nobody will go near any Feeney type breaches because it's considered bad case law. It's fuuny, I have yet to hear of a case tossed for a Feeney breach.

I think 'plain-view' has stood the test of time and the R vs Grunwald is s good, reasoned decision. But articulation by police is as vital as proving mens rea in an accused.

Interesting stuff and always fun to debate law issues with you!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:32 pm
 


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Wow, that's quite a leap to make. Yer comparing drunk driving legislation to nazi Germany??


I'm comparing random stoping and searching to random stoping of ppl by Nazi Germany.


Well that's just an asinine comparison.

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Realy considering both are or were claimed for the public good, Germany's was abused and the potental for abuse of this one is very very high. But then again I'm sure you will love to be stopped constantly and subjected to a breath test no matter the time of day no matter if you have commited a traffic violation or not. The first time you're running a bit late to work or an important meeting and are pulled over I'm sure you will be very pleased and delighted to give the breath test. Oh and if a bad/false reading should happen no complaints on your part will happen.
But I'm sure you think its asinine of me to even think such a thing would happen. Or that a false reading can happen.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:36 pm
 


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Wow, that's quite a leap to make. Yer comparing drunk driving legislation to nazi Germany??


I'm comparing random stoping and searching to random stoping of ppl by Nazi Germany.

It's not a friggin random stop and search. It's a friggin random roadside sobriety test.
Generally speakling, they only search your car if you exhibit certain behaviours.
I've been pulled over myself a few times and other than a cursory look into the passenger compartment, my car has never been searched.

Frankly, I'm not gonna fret over what a bunch of fear mongers think.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:38 pm
 


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Oh and if a bad/false reading should happen no complaints on your part will happen.

I don't drink so it would have to be quite a fuck up for it to register anything.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:59 pm
 


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And breaching the Liquor Licence Act is not criminal.

You really don't have the legal knowledge to debate this stuff.


i didnt breach it. so i find the rest of your post quite ironic.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:01 pm
 


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And breaching the Liquor Licence Act is not criminal.

You really don't have the legal knowledge to debate this stuff.


i didnt breach it. so i find the rest of your post quite ironic.




Whizz.....


That's the sound of a legal point whizzing over your head.


You can't be a criminal if you break or allegedly break a provincial statute.

You don't get 'tickets' for criminal offences.

I don't know if I can dumb it down any further for you. Maybe you should mis-quote the 'Oakes' test again?

This law stuff is obviously quite beyond you.


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Whizz is your problem.....I didnt breach anything. [B-o]


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:52 pm
 


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It's not a friggin random stop and search. It's a friggin random roadside sobriety test.


Cool. Now that you've established the all-important precedent go to the next step:

It's just a random blood test.

It's just a random check of my bank accounts.

It's just a random check of my computer's hard drive.

It's just a random check of my mail.

It's just a random search of my house.

It's just random closed circuit TV monitoring of the public.


If society and the government are safer then this is all perfectly fine, right?

And do not, kindly, say that these things won't happen as four of the above are now common in the UK where it was once said it was not going to happen.


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