Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Well at least we now know where Kapernick got his inspiration. Even in that he isn't original. BTW Robinson never did refuse to stand for the National Anthem. He spoke about not wanting to but, because it probably would have made things far worse for the player of colour who followed him he never did it at a MLB game. Kapernick of course had no such qualms about the fallout his action would cause for others.
Maybe Robinson just didn't have the balls and didn't want to put his career in jeopardy.
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
And why is pointing out the position of privilege a person lives in while trying to make himself look like one of the downtrodden a strawman? Also, Where did I say blacks had no problem?
Did he say he was one of the downtrodden? I thought he just said blacks were. And certainly even high status blacks have complained about being singled out by police, so maybe he has been too, who knows.
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
What I said was Colin Kapernick had no problem. Remember it was him who had decided to use his position as a pro football player to make it look like he was speaking for the black community which, is a self centred thing to do because there are a myriad of blacks who don't feel the same way this newly minted SJW does.
For fuck's sake, more of this bullshit. Any community but the white one must all be on one mind and be responsible for the entire community. Even MLK wasn't speaking for the entire black community - I'm sure you could have found plenty that just wanted him to keep quiet. There seems pretty broad agreement within the black community they are still getting a raw deal, and he was expressing that.
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
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Cruz weighed in on the actions of his fellow NFL league athlete, having this to say in regards to Kaepernick’s choice.
“I think, personally, the flag is the flag. Regardless of how you feel about the things that are going on in America today and the things that are going on across the world with gun violence and things like that. You’ve got to respect the flag and stand up with your teammates.”
And? Cruz is the authority on this, Kaepernick can't see it differntly? Oh, right, all blacks have to agree with him before he's allowed to act.
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
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Mr. Kaepernick, a biracial young man adopted and raised by white parents, claims America is oppressing blacks at a time when we have a black, biracial president who was twice elected. We’ve had two black attorneys general and currently have a black secretary of homeland security, along with a black national security advisor. Here in Dallas our police chief, whom I know, is an outstanding black leader. The officer in Milwaukee who shot the armed assailant after issuing an order to drop his weapon was black. Is Mr. Kaepernick following suit and cherry-picking what he terms “oppression?”
First of all, let me clarify to you sir, you are a multi-millionaire “one-percenter” just because you can throw a ball and kiss your biceps. Men like Jesse Owens, Jackie Robinson, Hank Aaron, Oscar Robertson, Ernie Davis, and Bernard King and Condredge Halloway of my alma mater were athletes who knew of oppression. You sir may certainly have the right to sit upon your “fourth point of contact” when the National Anthem is played but never forget, you live in a nation that has provided you the privilege to have that right.
http://www.allenbwest.com/allen/message ... kaepernickSorry but Kapernick overstepped his boundaries by trying to take on the mantle of spokesman for the oppressed blacks of America and now that it's coming back to bite him in the ass the excuses are flying full force.
this is what its really about for you guys, a black man daring to say that there are still problems for blacks in the US. How dare he.
You can keep deluding yourself that Colin Kapernick is the most selfless person in the world and what he did was for the betterment of his race but the fact is he used someone else's intellectual property to push an agenda that had no business being pushed in that forum.
But hey if you want to believe all we "right" wingers are pissed cause a black guy spoke out go right ahead because people like Victor Cruz and Allen B. West spoke out against him and you went after one of them.
So in your world Colin Kapernick can slag his country, embarrass their employer and cause racial discord on his team and within the league so long as they do it for a cause you agree with but, the second another black steps up challenges your poster boy's opinion he becomes no expert on black lives. Fair enough but here's a question. Since One grew up in Turlock California and the other in Patterson New Jersey could you tell me which one should have a better grip on urban black living and what life for a black in America is really like?
But TBH, I could really give a shit what Kapernick thinks or does and the only issues I had till you guys went off the rails defending his actions was one of where and why he did it. Although, I'm still waiting for you or someone else to give me the list of Black organisations and charities Mr. Kapernick has supported in the past with his money and or his presence because if nobody does it means this is more than likely a publicity stunt being used for an ulterior motive which was my first impression.