[Gunnair]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

andyt andyt:

We don't have Canadian cars, we have American cars built in Canada.

All the American makers seem to have gone for shit recently. Chrysler was never very reliable, and now Ford and GM seem to have joined them there.
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American car makers are building some of the best & most reliable vehicles on the market today.

Yep Ontario and Texas make great Toyotas!

[Regina]

Gunnair Gunnair:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

andyt andyt:

We don't have Canadian cars, we have American cars built in Canada.

All the American makers seem to have gone for shit recently. Chrysler was never very reliable, and now Ford and GM seem to have joined them there.
.

American car makers are building some of the best & most reliable vehicles on the market today.

Yep Ontario and Texas make great Toyotas!

# 1 choice of terrorists.

[Gunnair]

Regina Regina:

Gunnair Gunnair:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

American car makers are building some of the best & most reliable vehicles on the market today.

Yep Ontario and Texas make great Toyotas!

# 1 choice of terrorists.

I have yet to hear anyone using a Prius as a car bomb! Or an Echo for that matter!

[Jabberwalker]

herbie herbie:

Who drives Canadian cars?
How many posters who raised kids never owned a Dodge Caravan?
Iacocca era Jeeps? Pickup trucks? Shitloads of Americans who never even knew they were built in Canada....

A combination of huge import duties and roads built so narrow two armed peasants couldn't walk side by side kept them out of Europe.

Remember the Chevy Acadian?

... the Mercury?

Those were Canadian only.

[Regina]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

herbie herbie:

Who drives Canadian cars?
How many posters who raised kids never owned a Dodge Caravan?
Iacocca era Jeeps? Pickup trucks? Shitloads of Americans who never even knew they were built in Canada....

A combination of huge import duties and roads built so narrow two armed peasants couldn't walk side by side kept them out of Europe.

Remember the Chevy Acadian?

... the Mercury?

Those were Canadian only.

Only in badge name. The Acadian was a Nova.

[Jabberwalker]

Regina Regina:

Gunnair Gunnair:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

American car makers are building some of the best & most reliable vehicles on the market today.

Yep Ontario and Texas make great Toyotas!

# 1 choice of terrorists.

As Jeremy Clarkson pointed out, after the nuclear apocalypse, there'll be cockroaches and Toyota pickup trucks, left.

[Tricks]

herbie herbie:

Who drives Canadian cars?
How many posters who raised kids never owned a Dodge Caravan?
Iacocca era Jeeps? Pickup trucks? Shitloads of Americans who never even knew they were built in Canada....

A combination of huge import duties and roads built so narrow two armed peasants couldn't walk side by side kept them out of Europe.

Crown Vic.

Been in a taxi (or cop car) between 1990-2005? Built in Canada more than likely.

[DrCaleb]

Tricks Tricks:

herbie herbie:

Who drives Canadian cars?
How many posters who raised kids never owned a Dodge Caravan?
Iacocca era Jeeps? Pickup trucks? Shitloads of Americans who never even knew they were built in Canada....

A combination of huge import duties and roads built so narrow two armed peasants couldn't walk side by side kept them out of Europe.

Crown Vic.

Been in a taxi (or cop car) between 1990-2005? Built in Canada more than likely.

Camaro as well. The new models are built in Canada, where Firebirds were also (old models). GM made LAVs, and Magna can produce many BMW and Mercedes models in Canada.

[andyt]

Wasn't Magna going to start building their own car? In Austria maybe?

[Tricks]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Tricks Tricks:

herbie herbie:

Who drives Canadian cars?
How many posters who raised kids never owned a Dodge Caravan?
Iacocca era Jeeps? Pickup trucks? Shitloads of Americans who never even knew they were built in Canada....

A combination of huge import duties and roads built so narrow two armed peasants couldn't walk side by side kept them out of Europe.

Crown Vic.

Been in a taxi (or cop car) between 1990-2005? Built in Canada more than likely.

Camaro as well. The new models are built in Canada, where Firebirds were also (old models). GM made LAVs, and Magna can produce many BMW and Mercedes models in Canada.

Indeed! My Brother is an engineer for the new Camaros.

[OnTheIce]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Camaro as well. The new models are built in Canada, where Firebirds were also (old models). GM made LAVs, and Magna can produce many BMW and Mercedes models in Canada.

As of next year, Camaro production will be moved away from Oshawa to Michigan

[BeaverFever]

andyt andyt:

So, despite all your protestations, you're as sexist as the rest of us.

No, I still think less so

[herbie]

Yes, its unfortunate the European duties. They missed out on Saturns, when they weren't copies of Opels. Went broke maintaining Land Rovers or buying G-Wagons instead of Jeeps.
Different operational environments here and there too. I once took friends from Burnaby to our cabin in the Cariboo to fish. She was Bermuda born (fart at one end of the country and smell it at the other) he was from Marseille. She was moaning at Cache Creek how she'd never driven so far in her life. He commented how it was as if they were in Marseille and decided to go hunting outside Moscow.
I live 1100 Kms from the Lower Mainland where family is. It's 2 hours to the airport, pay for parking, hours of bullshit w security/waiting. And hour flight, seems that long in baggage then at least an hour of bad traffic to anyone's house.
Or I aim the car down the road, punch the cruise control and listen to music and watch the scenery go buy for 10-12 hours. Stop when I want. Eat where I want. Take a dump somewhere bigger than a breadbox.
They don't DO things like that over there. Only on Top Gear would they drive distances like that. That's why big bajeezuz SUVs and pickups sell here. Go all the way to Calgary visit/vacation and bring a whole living room suite or a tax free ATV home with you.

[BartSimpson]

herbie herbie:

Yes, its unfortunate the European duties. They missed out on Saturns, when they weren't copies of Opels. Went broke maintaining Land Rovers or buying G-Wagons instead of Jeeps.
Different operational environments here and there too. I once took friends from Burnaby to our cabin in the Cariboo to fish. She was Bermuda born (fart at one end of the country and smell it at the other) he was from Marseille. She was moaning at Cache Creek how she'd never driven so far in her life. He commented how it was as if they were in Marseille and decided to go hunting outside Moscow.
I live 1100 Kms from the Lower Mainland where family is. It's 2 hours to the airport, pay for parking, hours of bullshit w security/waiting. And hour flight, seems that long in baggage then at least an hour of bad traffic to anyone's house.
Or I aim the car down the road, punch the cruise control and listen to music and watch the scenery go buy for 10-12 hours. Stop when I want. Eat where I want. Take a dump somewhere bigger than a breadbox.
They don't DO things like that over there. Only on Top Gear would they drive distances like that. That's why big bajeezuz SUVs and pickups sell here. Go all the way to Calgary visit/vacation and bring a whole living room suite or a tax free ATV home with you.

Freedom and mobility have never been big cultural values in Europe. That's why so many of our ancestors picked up and moved to North America.

Sadly, the number of places you can go and do whatever you want are becoming fewer and fewer. Slowly we are becoming that which our ancestors warned us against.

[DrCaleb]

andyt andyt:

Wasn't Magna going to start building their own car? In Austria maybe?

Yes, a hybrid by Magna Steyr.