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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:03 pm
 


I have no words for this.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:23 pm
 


Robair Robair:
I have no words for this.


+5 for the picture.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:52 pm
 


Will the dog be retired and return to the constable's family? My cousin is a K9 officer with the WPS and his dog is also his dog


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:42 pm
 


[quote="andyt"]
As the novelist John Le Carre wrote in A Delicate Truth, his incredible story at the intersection of the modern state and the private defence contractor, of a particularly loathsome and treacherous character, “Jay Crispin was your normal, rootless, amoral, plausible, half-educated, nicely spoken frozen adolescent in a bespoke suit, with an unappeasable craving for money, power and respect, regardless where he got them from.”


John LeCarre is a brilliant writer. Haven't read this one, but I love that line.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:52 pm
 


Xort Xort:
Well I don't agree. To say that because they conduct mass killings they much be crazy, is poor logic. Some of them are insane. Some of them even have mental illnesses that would place them into the category of not being criminal responsible for their actions. But overall most of the mass killers that are captured rather than killed are not crazy. They are not serial killers that just decided to get all their killing done in one day. They are not delusional, they are not unable to control their emotions.

So yeah, JJ is wrong their are people that have coldly weighted the pros and cons and decide to try and hurt and kill as many people as possible. I would like to live in a world in which only mentally ill people hurt others, but that's just not matching with the facts of the world we do live in. JJ is in denial.


To be clear, JJ disagreed with this statement too. I'm not sure where I stand on it, though it is provocative. I'm not talking about legal insanity (i.e. diminished responsibility, diminished capacity) which addresses whether or not the perpetrator could be capable of making a detmermination of right and wrong. I'm talking about mental illness--whether a person committing an act such as this could be construed as not having any mental illness.

I'm not sure--one would like to think that people aren't naturally homicidal, but then there's Milgram's famous psychology test where he had complete strangers torturing and killing people (actors actually) based on instructions from an unknown but vaguely authoritative figure.

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I can't see any reasonable argument that can be made that knowing less about why someone committed this type of crime is a bad thing.


I've never found the motives of killers to be particularly edifying. Then ones that killed for Hitler would have killed for Stalin, in my opinion. The ones that stood up to Pinochet are the same type that stood up to Mao.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:39 pm
 


Robair Robair:
I have no words for this.


Seen that image on another site and got a little choked up. Apparently the dog was whining the entire ceremony. :(


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:00 pm
 


Damn. A guy I sailed with was the brother of one of them.

RIP. :(


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:47 pm
 


He gave a very moving eulogy. The whole service was very powerful. A very Canadian moment, one that makes you proud of your country. All that red serge and people pulling together. On cross country checkup last Sunday, many people struggled with their tears as they made their points. Sad that it takes such an ugly incident to do it.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:54 pm
 


It truly was a beautiful service. It's such a shame it takes such an act of villainy to see such a thing.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:42 pm
 


I hope Canada never sees another one!


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:04 pm
 


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One man showing his respect.

I guess you need Facebook to view this properly?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:51 pm
 


BRAH BRAH:
I hope Canada never sees another one!


Amen.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:05 pm
 


There are no words to describe the highway of red.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:16 pm
 


Truly. It's one of those things that gets you *right there*.

It's also heartening to see police from all over North America at the service. I remember after the four Mounties were shot in Alberta, there was a contingent that came all the way from Boston to pay their respects. They said that whenever ever one of their comrades was lost, Mounties from the embassy would be there. And so they returned the favour.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:54 pm
 


Whoever is on Facebook help get this sick page shut down! :evil:


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