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Posts: 33691
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:54 am
stratos stratos: Sad and sick, any further word on if/when the armed forces will be called out?
10,000 extra police on the streets tonight... from 6,000 to 16,000. All police leaves cancelled, others being brought in country wide. Wonder how much that will cost, would be cheaper to issue rounds to the Coldstream Guards and let them go for a walk.
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:25 am
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CommanderSock
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:07 am
And who says multiracial gangs don't exist. Look, it seems everyone can join hands, and loot and burn stores together.
Btw I was talking to my friends/family there, it's mostly kids and youth. News is reporting some of them young as 7.
This is pure boredom, compiled with the complacency of the police forces...
I say you're never too young to get a rubber bullet in the face.
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Posts: 33691
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:08 am
shopkeepers ordered to close their shops and board everything up...... at 4pm in the afternoon. "It's only property"..... that makes me sick. 
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:13 am
martin14 martin14: shopkeepers ordered to close their shops and board everything up...... at 4pm in the afternoon. "It's only property"..... that makes me sick.  Huh, so if for some reason Buckingham Palace was being "attacked"(for lack of a better word) by these shit pumps, they'd tell the Queen to board it up and head for the hills?
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andyt
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:18 am
CommanderSock CommanderSock: And who says multiracial gangs don't exist. Look, it seems everyone can join hands, and loot and burn stores together.
Btw I was talking to my friends/family there, it's mostly kids and youth. News is reporting some of them young as 7.
This is pure boredom, compiled with the complacency of the police forces...
I say you're never too young to get a rubber bullet in the face. Agreed. But Britain needs to also provide an opportunity for these people. Britain, unlike it's neighbors, has a huge permanent underclass of white people. These kids are all NEETS, they've got nothing else to do. If nothing else, make em do national service for their welfare benefits where they are trained for work and given some discipline. Use the rubber bullets to stop them now, but then give them something else besides just sitting on welfare.
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:24 am
In the USA the way we put down the riots in 1991 was the Marines went into the streets of Los Angeles with machine guns and live ammuntion. Once there were a few dead rioters it was amazing at how quickly things settled down.
As to the "It's just property" - no, it is not. Some of these shop keepers are barely hanging on and when they lose their shops those shops won't come back. It isn't just a shop being destroyed it is a livelyhood and, ergo, a life.
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Brenda
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:29 am
I don't understand why it takes so long. We were bitching that it took so long in Vancouver. This has been going on for 4 f*cking days, and finally the prime minister thought it might be a good idea to leave his Marguerita a marguerita and come back. And now they say "we might use rubber bullets"? YOU MIGHT??? LONDON is burning, and you MIGHT??? People are losing their life and livelyhood, and you MIGHT???
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:29 am
andyt andyt:
Agreed. But Britain needs to also provide an opportunity for these people. Britain, unlike it's neighbors, has a huge permanent underclass of white people. These kids are all NEETS, they've got nothing else to do. If nothing else, make em do national service for their welfare benefits where they are trained for work and given some discipline. Use the rubber bullets to stop them now, but then give them something else besides just sitting on welfare.
Andy, it is this exact attitude... the State must provide jobs ........ that is the reason this underclass was created in the first place. Its always the government must do this, the government must do that. It's time to stop relying on the State to do everything for you. Volunteers who showed up to help clean were refused, due to 'health and safety' issues... like too much broken glass on the streets. What a way for an idiotic level of government to destroy community spirit.
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andyt
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:34 am
martin14 martin14: andyt andyt:
Agreed. But Britain needs to also provide an opportunity for these people. Britain, unlike it's neighbors, has a huge permanent underclass of white people. These kids are all NEETS, they've got nothing else to do. If nothing else, make em do national service for their welfare benefits where they are trained for work and given some discipline. Use the rubber bullets to stop them now, but then give them something else besides just sitting on welfare.
Andy, it is this exact attitude... the State must provide jobs ........ that is the reason this underclass was created in the first place. Its always the government must do this, the government must do that. It's time to stop relying on the State to do everything for you. Volunteers who showed up to help clean were refused, due to 'health and safety' issues... like too much broken glass on the streets. What a way for an idiotic level of government to destroy community spirit. The state has to do something if it does't want this shit to continue. Somehow Germany manages not to create this underclass. If you ignore this problem it will just erupt like this - that costs the state money too, as well as all those welfare payments. If there aren't enough jobs, let these people do national service for their welfare where you train them how to work and have discipline. And quit importing people to take jobs away so that there are jobs available for these people. You need the carrot and the stick if you want to change this dynamic.
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:40 am
andyt andyt: The state has to do something if it does't want this shit to continue. You're completely missing the point. The state 'doing something' for too long is the source of the problem! Now the state is out of money and the fun times for your layabout leftist friends is over and they're in the streets throwing a temper tantrum. Oh, and the state is doing something. See, they can't do dick to stop the rioters but they sure as hell will stop volunteers from cleaning up the mess because, you know, union members are supposed to get overtime for that work. 
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Brenda
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:44 am
Who in his right mind would want to live in Great Britain now anyway? If you as an immigrant to Europe can make the choice (and you can) what would be the reason to settle in Great Britain?
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andyt
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:44 am
Under your plan the state will just have to shift it's resources to riot suppression and population control. The old dream of the European radical left, of goading the state into becoming fascist will have been realized, while they're all in their dotage. Next step, or so they thought, was a communist revolution against the fascist state. For most bystanders I doubt if one outcome is better than another.
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:45 am
Just like the Vancouver riots, people are starting to get identified on social media! http://twitpic.com/63dg74
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andyt
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:47 am
Brenda Brenda: Who in his right mind would want to live in Great Britain now anyway? If you as an immigrant to Europe can make the choice (and you can) what would be the reason to settle in Great Britain? Yep, the Poles are long gone to greener pastures. I bet all sorts of 3rd worlder Commonwealth people are still getting in tho. Time to close the doors, look after the people they have already.
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