[andyt]

martin14 martin14:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

So ae we sending refined product, or raw logs?

The title says lumber exports. Raw logs aren't lumber.

I highly doubt we are sending finished tables, chairs, mouldings,
doors, cabinetry, etc.

Maybe we cut the logs square for easy shipping, but that's it.

Whoa, maybe educate yourself about the forest industry. There's a big jump between logs and finished products using lumber. Lumber means logs saw into dimensional pieces like 2x4's. Used to build houses etc. BC doesn't have a huge furniture lumber side, tho I have bought some pine furniture made in BC.

[andyt]

RUEZ RUEZ:

martin14 martin14:

RUEZ RUEZ:

The title says lumber exports. Raw logs aren't lumber.

I highly doubt we are sending finished tables, chairs, mouldings,
doors, cabinetry, etc.

Maybe we cut the logs square for easy shipping, but that's it.

The wood we sell from BC is softwood pine and spruce. You don't make a lot from that other than dimensional lumber and roof trusses.

And Douglas Fir and Hemlock and Cedar. At one time Doug Fir was king - don't know if it is anymore.

[PostFactum]

A lot of lumber for crooked Chinese products that will be soon exported for us. I'm not big expert in quality of US products, but I think that US would make something better from this lumber (In this case they don't want to buy it). So guys, let's get ready for suffer.

[PostFactum]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Logs are timber. Lumber is wood that is waiting to be turned into something

Aw, so you don't need a kitchen table yet?) Hurry up to buy it before chinese didn't make it from this lumber

[Canadian_Mind]

PostFactum PostFactum:

A lot of lumber for crooked Chinese products that will be soon exported for us. I'm not big expert in quality of US products, but I think that US would make something better from this lumber (In this case they don't want to buy it). So guys, let's get ready for suffer.

Softwood is primarily used in construction. I don't think China is going to be exporting stick-frame houses to us any time soon...

[sandorski]

BC has always shipped mostly Lumber and received back certain more value added Wood Products. It has done very well with it and though the Industry isn't as important overall as it used to be, finding a New Trade partner when the traditional one has drastically cut back spending is Good News regardless.

[martin14]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

PostFactum PostFactum:

A lot of lumber for crooked Chinese products that will be soon exported for us. I'm not big expert in quality of US products, but I think that US would make something better from this lumber (In this case they don't want to buy it). So guys, let's get ready for suffer.

Softwood is primarily used in construction. I don't think China is going to be exporting stick-frame houses to us any time soon...

They already export drywall and plywood sheets, so don't be surprised.
Check and see what you are buying, seems
Florida is now having problems.


We seem to put a very low price on our souls these days.

[andyt]

martin14 martin14:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

PostFactum PostFactum:

A lot of lumber for crooked Chinese products that will be soon exported for us. I'm not big expert in quality of US products, but I think that US would make something better from this lumber (In this case they don't want to buy it). So guys, let's get ready for suffer.

Softwood is primarily used in construction. I don't think China is going to be exporting stick-frame houses to us any time soon...

They already export drywall and plywood sheets, so don't be surprised.
Check and see what you are buying, seems
Florida is now having problems.


We seem to put a very low price on our souls these days.

Twas ever thus. But now, we're selling our soul to more customers instead of only to the US.

Plywood requires raw logs to produce. If we start shipping large amounts of raw logs to China then we have to start worrying about plywood.

Drywall isn't a wood product.

China doesn't have the timber necessary to become an exporter of dimension lumber. Doubt it would ever become economically viable to ship logs to China and buy back lumber.

[herbie]

They're buying mainly large structural beams 10x10, 16x16 etc. (cants?) whereas Japan is mainly buying metric versions of 2x4, 2x6.
Being squared they pack nicely in railcars and containers, but there's no way to know if they're re-sawing them. One would think not as they're paying a lot more for those sizes than for pre-cut lumber, which is why they surpassed the USA in sales $$.
All three mills in our town are back up and running.

[andyt]

herbie herbie:

They're buying mainly large structural beams 10x10, 16x16 etc. (cants?) whereas Japan is mainly buying metric versions of 2x4, 2x6.
Being squared they pack nicely in railcars and containers, but there's no way to know if they're re-sawing them. One would think not as they're paying a lot more for those sizes than for pre-cut lumber, which is why they surpassed the USA in sales $$.
All three mills in our town are back up and running.

Good stuff. What town?

[bootlegga]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

Good news.

No, you're shipping raw lumber to China and they're shipping finished products back.

That makes you an economic vassal state to China...just like we are.

Using that definition, Canada has been a vassal state to the US for pretty much all of its existence.

[andyt]

Except it doesn't apply. Unless we start buying houses from China, they're not shipping finished products they made from our lumber back to us.

But that's Canada, richest banana republic in the world. And yes, we have no bananas.

[bootlegga]

andyt andyt:

Except it doesn't apply. Unless we start buying houses from China, they're not shipping finished products they made from our lumber back to us.

But that's Canada, richest banana republic in the world. And yes, we have no bananas.

Sure they are - check out the furniture in any store in Canada - most of it is made in China.

Canada has been a hewer of wood and drawer of water for its entire existence - the only real difference is who we sent our raw materials to (UK, USA, and now China).

[andyt]

bootlegga bootlegga:

andyt andyt:

Except it doesn't apply. Unless we start buying houses from China, they're not shipping finished products they made from our lumber back to us.

But that's Canada, richest banana republic in the world. And yes, we have no bananas.

Sure they are - check out the furniture in any store in Canada - most of it is made in China.

Canada has been a hewer of wood and drawer of water for its entire existence - the only real difference is who we sent our raw materials to (UK, USA, and now China).

Didn't know that. But does that wood come from BC/Canada? I've always thought it was disgraceful that Canada has no Ikea or similar.

[herbie]

I've been waiting for Ikea to feature "blue pine" (beetlewood) for years. Unfortunately they've flapped their gums and done dick shit for so long, it's NFG anymore and will be feeding the co-gen burners. Almost every other town in BC is setting up to use waste wood and feed power into the grid.
Hell if it wasn't so soggy this summer half the province would be burning with that carpet of dead wood.