[Arctic_Menace]

Hell, adoption is even an option! This is just ludicrous.

[Gunnair]

andyt andyt:

Brenda Brenda:

This made me nauseous.
There are so many options for people who do not want to, or cannot take care of (another) child. I hope this asshole rots in hell.

Well he was depressed and wasn't thinking straight. I should have had the woman do it, then she could have claimed post-partum depression and get off.

Troll much?

[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

All I ever said, was that I could understand their reasoning.

Well you've got shrinks beat all to hell. They can explain why they think something happens but I don't think any of them 'understands' it. We know Vince Li killed Tim Mclean because he was a paranoid schizophrenic off his meds, but no one understands 'why' he was killed.

Medical professionals in a large asian nation freuently kill newborns as they are crowning with a saline injection to the skull...it's government policy, yet I don't understand it.

[Brenda]

A paranoid schizophrenic off their meds will understand. Doesn't mean they can explain it.

[ShepherdsDog]

No...don't think so. part of their problem is they can't understand. Understanding implies a rationale.

[GreenTiger]

Choban Choban:

she should rot in jail, he should have an inmte 3 times his size smash his head with a cinderblock. He didn't bother even looking into other options as far as I'm concearned he knew he would kill this child from the moment he found out about it, someone should cut his cock off and shove it down his throat

[Brenda]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

No...don't think so. part of their problem is they can't understand. Understanding implies a rationale.

Not necessarily. I understand why a post partum depressed or psychotic woman can kill her baby. I can see what brought her there. I can't explain it tho.

At that moment, you don't know, you don't understand that what you are doing is wrong. In hindsight, it is very easy to condemn. But when you are at that point, it is the only logical thing to do. Does it make sense to anyone who is not at that point? No. Of course not. But when you are there, it does. And if you are so far lost that you cannot stop yourself anymore, you just do it.

[Gunnair]

Brenda Brenda:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

No...don't think so. part of their problem is they can't understand. Understanding implies a rationale.

Not necessarily. I understand why a post partum depressed or psychotic woman can kill her baby. I can see what brought her there. I can't explain it tho.

At that moment, you don't know, you don't understand that what you are doing is wrong. In hindsight, it is very easy to condemn. But when you are at that point, it is the only logical thing to do. Does it make sense to anyone who is not at that point? No. Of course not. But when you are there, it does. And if you are so far lost that you cannot stop yourself anymore, you just do it.

Would I be correct in assuming you can empathize with any violent offender with psychological disorders?

[Brenda]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Brenda Brenda:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

No...don't think so. part of their problem is they can't understand. Understanding implies a rationale.

Not necessarily. I understand why a post partum depressed or psychotic woman can kill her baby. I can see what brought her there. I can't explain it tho.

At that moment, you don't know, you don't understand that what you are doing is wrong. In hindsight, it is very easy to condemn. But when you are at that point, it is the only logical thing to do. Does it make sense to anyone who is not at that point? No. Of course not. But when you are there, it does. And if you are so far lost that you cannot stop yourself anymore, you just do it.

Would I be correct in assuming you can empathize with any violent offender with psychological disorders?

No, not necessarily. And I would never suggest they shouldn't be treated. And that could be for life. I have no problem with putting people with a psychological disorder who commit violent crimes in jail, and AFTER their time in jail, go to a treatment facility.

I do have empathy for post partum depressed or post partum psychotic women.

[Gunnair]

Brenda Brenda:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Would I be correct in assuming you can empathize with any violent offender with psychological disorders?

No, not necessarily. And I would never suggest they shouldn't be treated. And that could be for life. I have no problem with putting people with a psychological disorder who commit violent crimes in jail, and AFTER their time in jail, go to a treatment facility.

I do have empathy for post partum depressed or post partum psychotic women.

Seems sexist. I shouldn't think you'd be surprised when guys don't buy the post partum explanation.

[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

I understand why a post partum depressed or psychotic woman can kill her baby.

Really? Plenty of women have suffered from PPD and PPP and have never killed their children, nor can they understand why a woman would ever kill their child.

$1:

you don't understand that what you are doing is wrong.

here you yourself say that they don't understand. Men's hormones fluctuate dramatically throughout the day...yet we are expected to be responsible for our actions. Even in cases of 'roid rage we still place responsibility on the individual for their actions...they aren't portrayed as a victim of a hormonal imbalance.

[Brenda]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

I understand why a post partum depressed or psychotic woman can kill her baby.

Really? Plenty of women have suffered from PPD and PPP and have never killed their children, nor can they understand why a woman would ever kill their child.

PPD and PPP have levels. Some are severe, some are not. Changes per pregnancy and per person.

$1:

$1:

you don't understand that what you are doing is wrong.

here you yourself say that they don't understand. Men's hormones flictuate dramatically throughout the day...yet we are expected to be responsible for our actions. Even in cases of 'roid rage we still place responsibility on the individual for their actions...they aren't portrayed as a victim of a hormonal imbalance.

At the moment, no, they don't. In hindsight, they do.
I never said they shouldn't be held accountable.

[PostFactum]

I don't know what it is, but anyway that's not human.

[Benn]

PostFactum PostFactum:

I don't know what it is, but anyway that's not human.

Agreed and hey heres an idea, don't want more kids then get fixed you psycho freak!

[BartSimpson]

desertdude desertdude:

Man this is just pathetic and beyond words. What a mother f**king c**t ! Should have had his d**k chopped off if he couldn't afford any more children.

There's times like this when I much prefer both your sentiments here and Islamic justice.