[Curtman]

martin14 martin14:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

It's at about $1.07 Cdn here.

Bastard.

1.58 here, that's


2 fucking dollars and 20 cents a litre.


Gimme the Vaseline.



But hey, look at the bright side.

Vote Liberal/Dipper/Green, so they can put a Carbon Tax on top of that !

What happened to this Steve?

[RUEZ]

Curtman Curtman:

What happened to this Steve?

We hit a recession and now he needs all the tax money he can collect.

[Curtman]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Curtman Curtman:

What happened to this Steve?

We hit a recession and now he needs all the tax money he can collect.

To give corporate tax cuts?

[andyt]

Curtman Curtman:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Curtman Curtman:

What happened to this Steve?

We hit a recession and now he needs all the tax money he can collect.

To give corporate tax cuts?

They are the job creators. If we set their taxes to 0 we'd have even more jobs. Anyway good for Steveo for breaking his promise. We're going to have taxes, and the gas tax seems like about the best one out there. Supposedly consumption taxes have the last negative impact, and a gas tax has all sorts of positive environmental (and health) impacts. So go Steve-o go, raise it some more, I say.

[martin14]

Curtman Curtman:

martin14 martin14:

Vote Liberal/Dipper/Green, so they can put a Carbon Tax on top of that !

What happened to my constant need to hack complete bs?

Did they raise the taxes yesterday ?


If not, then stfu please.

[RUEZ]

Curtman Curtman:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Curtman Curtman:

What happened to this Steve?

We hit a recession and now he needs all the tax money he can collect.

To give corporate tax cuts?

Those tax cuts were promised before the recession. Anyway we all know it's easy to make promises because the voters generally forget everything.

[RUEZ]

andyt andyt:

They are the job creators. If we set their taxes to 0 we'd have even more jobs. Anyway good for Steveo for breaking his promise. We're going to have taxes, and the gas tax seems like about the best one out there. Supposedly consumption taxes have the last negative impact, and a gas tax has all sorts of positive environmental (and health) impacts. So go Steve-o go, raise it some more, I say.

You seem to be forgetting who higher oil prices hurt the most. As I've stated before and I'm sure you know, this will affect more than just gas prices. The poor also need to buy household goods and food.

[Curtman]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Those tax cuts were promised before the recession. Anyway we all know it's easy to make promises because the voters generally forget everything.

They also promised unequivocally to never ever run a deficit for any reason whatsoever. This promise means nothing, the call to reduce gas taxes means nothing. But the corporate tax promise, that one goes through at all costs.

Bad management.

[andyt]

RUEZ RUEZ:

andyt andyt:

They are the job creators. If we set their taxes to 0 we'd have even more jobs. Anyway good for Steveo for breaking his promise. We're going to have taxes, and the gas tax seems like about the best one out there. Supposedly consumption taxes have the last negative impact, and a gas tax has all sorts of positive environmental (and health) impacts. So go Steve-o go, raise it some more, I say.

You seem to be forgetting who higher oil prices hurt the most. As I've stated before and I'm sure you know, this will affect more than just gas prices. The poor also need to buy household goods and food.

Your heart bleeds for the poor? Let's raise minimum wages, and the personal tax exemption.
All he has to do is lower taxes for them or mail out those bonus checks like he does with the HST. Or, put that money from the tax into transit - and make transit cheap or better yet free. That would be a big boost for the poor, and good for Gaea as well.

You're sorta arguing out of both sides of your mouth here. You support his not lowering the gas tax, ie support his hurting the poor, but yet winge about raising it - evne tho you say he needs the money. So where would you tax if you were PM?

[RUEZ]

Curtman Curtman:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Those tax cuts were promised before the recession. Anyway we all know it's easy to make promises because the voters generally forget everything.

They also promised unequivocally to never ever run a deficit for any reason whatsoever. This promise means nothing, the call to reduce gas taxes means nothing. But the corporate tax promise, that one goes through at all costs.

Bad management.

Lowering gas tax won't do much for us anyway. Sure it will lower the price for a month until the oil companies feel we've forgotten about the issue. I'd rather see the government set a gas price that gives the oil companies enough profit to continue operating but allows us to not have to choose gas or food.

[Yogi]

Lots of election coverage on the telly. That's to be expected. But have you noticed that most of the commercials during are either for Viagra or Cialis?
Election, erection. Election, erection. Election,erection. Either way, a lot of people are gonna get screwed!

[RUEZ]

andyt andyt:

RUEZ RUEZ:

andyt andyt:

They are the job creators. If we set their taxes to 0 we'd have even more jobs. Anyway good for Steveo for breaking his promise. We're going to have taxes, and the gas tax seems like about the best one out there. Supposedly consumption taxes have the last negative impact, and a gas tax has all sorts of positive environmental (and health) impacts. So go Steve-o go, raise it some more, I say.

You seem to be forgetting who higher oil prices hurt the most. As I've stated before and I'm sure you know, this will affect more than just gas prices. The poor also need to buy household goods and food.

Your heart bleeds for the poor? Let's raise minimum wages, and the personal tax exemption.
All he has to do is lower taxes for them or mail out those bonus checks like he does with the HST. Or, put that money from the tax into transit - and make transit cheap or better yet free. That would be a big boost for the poor, and good for Gaea as well.

You're sorta arguing out of both sides of your mouth here. You support his not lowering the gas tax, ie support his hurting the poor, but yet winge about raising it - evne tho you say he needs the money. So where would you tax if you were PM?

How is raising the min wage going to help my retired father?

[andyt]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Curtman Curtman:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Those tax cuts were promised before the recession. Anyway we all know it's easy to make promises because the voters generally forget everything.

They also promised unequivocally to never ever run a deficit for any reason whatsoever. This promise means nothing, the call to reduce gas taxes means nothing. But the corporate tax promise, that one goes through at all costs.

Bad management.

Lowering gas tax won't do much for us anyway. Sure it will lower the price for a month until the oil companies feel we've forgotten about the issue. I'd rather see the government set a gas price that gives the oil companies enough profit to continue operating but allows us to not have to choose gas or food.

I really really doubt you have to make that choice Ruez. My guess is you're just another middle class whiner.

You really support the state setting gas prices? And you're a CPC supporter? Holy shit. Gonna set up a whole gas price commission, are you? With tons of bureaucrats pondering what is sufficient but not excess profit? Hearings every time the oil companies want to raise the price of gas while cude oil does it's crazy roller coaster ride? You sound like a closet Dipper to me.

Amazing to me how people lose all perspective when it comes to gas prices.

[andyt]

RUEZ RUEZ:

andyt andyt:

RUEZ RUEZ:

You seem to be forgetting who higher oil prices hurt the most. As I've stated before and I'm sure you know, this will affect more than just gas prices. The poor also need to buy household goods and food.

Your heart bleeds for the poor? Let's raise minimum wages, and the personal tax exemption.
All he has to do is lower taxes for them or mail out those bonus checks like he does with the HST. Or, put that money from the tax into transit - and make transit cheap or better yet free. That would be a big boost for the poor, and good for Gaea as well.

You're sorta arguing out of both sides of your mouth here. You support his not lowering the gas tax, ie support his hurting the poor, but yet winge about raising it - evne tho you say he needs the money. So where would you tax if you were PM?

How is raising the min wage going to help my retired father?

Well, as i said, raise the personal exemption so he'll pay less tax. And provide cheap transit. Raise the GAIN portion of the pension plan, for low income Seniors. Lot's of ways to help your retired father if he really is hurting and not just whining. Oil costs are likely to keep driving upward - might as well get used to it and learn to adapt.

[RUEZ]

andyt andyt:

I really really doubt you have to make that choice Ruez. My guess is you're just another middle class whiner.

You really support the state setting gas prices? And you're a CPC supporter? Holy shit. Gonna set up a whole gas price commission, are you? With tons of bureaucrats pondering what is sufficient but not excess profit? Hearings every time the oil companies want to raise the price of gas while cude oil does it's crazy roller coaster ride? You sound like a closet Dipper to me.

Amazing to me how people lose all perspective when it comes to gas prices.

I also believe in Universal Health Care. I must be socialist too eh? It's too bad that in your mind if people are concerned about issues they must be labeled as whiners or otherwise. On the other hand people like you who think higher gas prices will help the environment are jamming your head into the sand. People are going to drive vehicles, they have to. We need to find alternatives to fossil fuels not just tax them and take money out of peoples pockets. All you've done is made a society with poorer drivers and richer oil companies. If Gordon Campbell was truly interested in helping the environment and not just looking like a green guy he would have put lower carbon taxes on things like propane and natural gas fuels and invested that tax into actual alternatives. Not just taxing us and never giving us something cleaner to use. Thankfully someone that stupid has been run out of office.