[raydan]

Is it tin-foil hat time, PA9?

[sandorski]

ConTV- This just in, Ignatief has poopy pants!

LibTV- Canadians were aghast today when it was revealed that Harper picks his nose!!

ParanoiTV- Gitchyer foil out folks, dem alien buggers are a comin back into range!!!



Future News is gonna be awesome!

[Prof_Chomsky]

Yet another awesome decision by the CRTC that works directly against the public interest... much like the recent internet ruling. Why do we have the CRTC again?

[BartSimpson]

The problem with a ban on 'false or misleading' news is that you're necessarily going to appoint someone as the arbiter of what is 'false or misleading'.

That may be fine for now. But what happens when you get a corrupt government that decides that any news about their corrupt activities is 'false or misleading'?

The thing about the free market of ideas is that false or misleading news will be revealed as people delve into it. It may not be an easy or pleasant process, but freedom is messy.

Myself, I'll err on the side of freedom over the side of having some bureacrat dictate what can and cannot be said in the media.

[sandorski]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

The problem with a ban on 'false or misleading' news is that you're necessarily going to appoint someone as the arbiter of what is 'false or misleading'.

That may be fine for now. But what happens when you get a corrupt government that decides that any news about their corrupt activities is 'false or misleading'?

The thing about the free market of ideas is that false or misleading news will be revealed as people delve into it. It may not be an easy or pleasant process, but freedom is messy.

Myself, I'll err on the side of freedom over the side of having some bureacrat dictate what can and cannot be said in the media.

False News masquerading as News is not Freedom, it is simply stupid. A misinformed Public is not a Free Public.

[BartSimpson]

sandorski sandorski:

False News masquerading as News is not Freedom, it is simply stupid. A misinformed Public is not a Free Public.

Competing news services will necessarily need to be informative and accurate or they'll not attract an audience. Simple as that.

The problem or phenomenon of FOX and Sky is that they speak a different voice to issues than the current majority of news services. In a protected market, those news services don't have to respond to what the public wants from them and in an open market they either adapt or succumb to market pressures.

Bear in mind, neither FOX nor Sky is trying to access the public airwaves. They just want to be able to compete on pay networks. If people don't want them then they'll go away.

In short, the public is the best arbiter of what kind of news programming they want.

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

False News masquerading as News is not Freedom, it is simply stupid. A misinformed Public is not a Free Public.

Competing news services will necessarily need to be informative and accurate or they'll not attract an audience. Simple as that.

The problem or phenomenon of FOX and Sky is that they speak a different voice to issues than the current majority of news services. In a protected market, those news services don't have to respond to what the public wants from them and in an open market they either adapt or succumb to market pressures.

Bear in mind, neither FOX nor Sky is trying to access the public airwaves. They just want to be able to compete on pay networks. If people don't want them then they'll go away.

In short, the public is the best arbiter of what kind of news programming they want.

The problem being, the cable 'news' shows that really are opinion trying to be 'news'. If the CRTC loosens the rules governing 'false or misleading' then the cable news establishment will drop all pretense. People go for sensational, not fact. They are too easily distracted to dicern their own fact from opinion, and once all net neutrality erased - good luck trying to find established fact. Heaven knows you won't find it in newspapers.

[sandorski]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

False News masquerading as News is not Freedom, it is simply stupid. A misinformed Public is not a Free Public.

Competing news services will necessarily need to be informative and accurate or they'll not attract an audience. Simple as that.

The problem or phenomenon of FOX and Sky is that they speak a different voice to issues than the current majority of news services. In a protected market, those news services don't have to respond to what the public wants from them and in an open market they either adapt or succumb to market pressures.

Bear in mind, neither FOX nor Sky is trying to access the public airwaves. They just want to be able to compete on pay networks. If people don't want them then they'll go away.

In short, the public is the best arbiter of what kind of news programming they want.

A different voice? BS.

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

The problem being, the cable 'news' shows that really are opinion trying to be 'news'.

So what? We have opinion shows like Colbert and The Daily Show that really are news trying to be opinion. Add to that mix Keith Olbermann and then you've essentially got a left-ish Rush Limbaugh delivering raw opinion on a purported news network...MSNBC.

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

If the CRTC loosens the rules governing 'false or misleading' then the cable news establishment will drop all pretense. People go for sensational, not fact. They are too easily distracted to dicern their own fact from opinion, and once all net neutrality erased - good luck trying to find established fact. Heaven knows you won't find it in newspapers.

The bolded part of your comment is a good reason to prohibit democracy altogether. Really, if you can't even trust people to parse their news then how can you trust them to vote?

[Freakinoldguy]

If the idiots who run the CRTC allow this crap to come to fruition, then, they at least should require a parental type warning prior to and during the alleged news shows.

This warning should be clear and concise, stating that this program isn't news, just more leftwing or rightwing bullshit and the portrayal of the truth, or any other fascimile thereof, is purely accidental.

[BartSimpson]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

If the idiots who run the CRTC allow this crap to come to fruition, then, they at least should require a parental type warning prior to and during the alleged news shows.

This warning should be clear and concise, stating that this program isn't news, just more leftwing or rightwing bullshit and the portrayal of the truth, or any other fascimile thereof, is purely accidental.

Then that's going to be a pretty standard disclaimer on every program.

[Freakinoldguy]

So be it. At least then, those of us who can still think without the aide of TV, computers, cellphones, twitter and facebook can make informed decisions.

The only drawback I can see though is that CBC is gonna have to swap the Fifth Estate for 22minutes to avoid the required warning labels.

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

The bolded part of your comment is a good reason to prohibit democracy altogether. Really, if you can't even trust people to parse their news then how can you trust them to vote?

I don't. The ones that do vote, I believe just vote for the traditional party they always have voted for, without any forethought.

Anarchy is the only solution.

[raydan]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

The bolded part of your comment is a good reason to prohibit democracy altogether. Really, if you can't even trust people to parse their news then how can you trust them to vote?

I don't. The ones that do vote, I believe just vote for the traditional party they always have voted for, without any forethought.

Anarchy is the only solution.

I don't know what's worse... knowing nothing and just voting for the party "du jour", or always voting for the same party, even if a moron's running it.

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

The bolded part of your comment is a good reason to prohibit democracy altogether. Really, if you can't even trust people to parse their news then how can you trust them to vote?

I don't. The ones that do vote, I believe just vote for the traditional party they always have voted for, without any forethought.

Anarchy is the only solution.

Isn't that what we already have?