[fifeboy]

Who gives a shit about the beheading. It's the killing that's important. Every religion does more than it's fair share. After you are dead, who cares?

[Brenda]

If you are religious, you do. Afterlife, remember?

[BartSimpson]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Sikhs too.....bit of a link there......

It's kind of a neighborhood tradition. In any case, in the interests of tolerance and diversity I say we just let it go as a misunderstanding.

[fifeboy]

Brenda Brenda:

If you are religious, you do. Afterlife, remember?

So, what's the prob? If you are in heaven and missing your head. God is there so he can make you a new one Prob solved. If you are in hell than you probably don't want to see what's happening anyways,

[RUEZ]

fifeboy fifeboy:

Who gives a shit about the beheading. It's the killing that's important. Every religion does more than it's fair share. After you are dead, who cares?

How many people are killed by Buddhists every year?

[fifeboy]

RUEZ RUEZ:

fifeboy fifeboy:

Who gives a shit about the beheading. It's the killing that's important. Every religion does more than it's fair share. After you are dead, who cares?

How many people are killed by Buddhists every year?

[herbie]

The skeleton was a Buddhist. The Khmer Rouge were anything but.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Brenda Brenda:

Hmmm... So because he's Muslim, it's honor killing, but when a non-Muslim does the same, it's a crime of passion. Ok.

I'd say that its cultural rather than religious, just like Suttee was/is cultural rather than a Hindu thing.

The media reports allude to the fact that this is a common form of killing by husbands who have been cheated on, or women of ‘loose’ morals in parts of Pakistan.

It’s also a favourite technique of murder by the Pakistani Taliban.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2007/09/0 ... 0320070907

That’s where people need to get with the program. Bhurka’s are cultural, not religious, it just happens that whacked out Muslims think it’s a religious thing when the Quran just says basically ‘dress modestly’, not make sure all your chicks are wearing full length bags on their head and body.

This is where multicult fails us again. The apologists accept these cultural oddities as ‘religious’ when the most clearly are not, and accommodate these fanatics from the Stone Age.

As the old Sikh on the train told me, Sikhs and other religions pull that shit off on us because many in the west really are ignorant of their religion(s). Not the honour killing crap, but stuff like kirpans and bhurkas.

[2Cdo]

herbie herbie:

The skeleton was a Buddhist. The Khmer Rouge were anything but.

Don't worry herbie, fifeboy doesn't know fact from fiction. Probably thinks the Khmer Rouge were free-thinking socialists! (If he even knows who they are!)

[andyt]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

As the old Sikh on the train told me, Sikhs and other religions pull that shit off on us because many in the west really are ignorant of their religion(s). Not the honour killing crap, but stuff like kirpans and bhurkas.

Yep, they can bullshit us about them. But we do it because we feel so guilty about our success and some of the bad shit we did that came with it. And, I lay a large piece of it at Christianities door. Because we allowed churches to run tax free, allowed religious schools and all kinds of other Christian spatialness, we're now hoist on our own petard when we're supposed to be equal and all and won't let these other groups have their spatialness. It's pretty hypocritical of Quebec to retain the crucifix in public buildings but deny whatever religious expression these other groups want. The kirpan is not cultural, it's religious. How fanatically to insist on wearing it everywhere is cultural, and probably more immigrant cultural as immigrants confronted by change try to hang on to their beliefs.

I don't agree with an exemption for the kirpan, but I don't agree with crucifixes in public buildings either. Nor religious schools supported by public funds. Etc.

[fifeboy]

herbie herbie:

The skeleton was a Buddhist. The Khmer Rouge were anything but.

Yeah right. The country is Buddhist, the people are Buddhist and they grew up Buddhist. Communism was a recent blip. Next thing you are going to tell us is there were no wars in the Buddhist areas of the world, before the coming of Carl and the Muslims

[andyt]

fifeboy fifeboy:

herbie herbie:

The skeleton was a Buddhist. The Khmer Rouge were anything but.

Yeah right. The country is Buddhist, the people are Buddhist and they grew up Buddhist. Communism was a recent blip. Next thing you are going to tell us is there were no wars in the Buddhist areas of the world, before the coming of Carl and the Muslims

Nope. All you can say is that Buddhism does seem to lend itself less to killing in the name of "truth." No God to fight over, no trying to create a worker's paradise. You will note that the killing in Cambodia only happened once the commies were able to take power - aided by the actions of the US in destabilizing the country. I don't know how well the country was doing before this, but they certainly weren't mass slaughtering each other.

I can't think of one genocide or large war fought in the name of Buddhism. The Tibetans had civil war to determine which sect would rule it, but they didn't go out and try to conquer other lands. Ashoka did a lot of invading and killing, but he calmed right down once he converted to Buddhism, sent out emissaries to other lands instead. (Some people think Jesus was taught by Buddhist monks in Egypt).

[GreenTiger]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Sikhs too.....bit of a link there......

It's kind of a neighborhood tradition. In any case, in the interests of tolerance and diversity I say we just let it go as a misunderstanding.

I keep forgetting that this is the religion of peace.

[2Cdo]

fifeboy fifeboy:

herbie herbie:

The skeleton was a Buddhist. The Khmer Rouge were anything but.

Yeah right. The country is Buddhist, the people are Buddhist and they grew up Buddhist. Communism was a recent blip. Next thing you are going to tell us is there were no wars in the Buddhist areas of the world, before the coming of Carl and the Muslims

Something along the order of 1,000,000 people killed out of a population of 8-10,000,000 by the Khmer Rouge. Pol Pot and company were extremely hard-core communists who targeted the educated people in order to create a nation of farmers.

I'm thinking they would have left you alone.

[fifeboy]

andyt andyt:

Nope. All you can say is that Buddhism does seem to lend itself less to killing in the name of "truth." No God to fight over, no trying to create a worker's paradise. You will note that the killing in Cambodia only happened once the commies were able to take power - aided by the actions of the US in destabilizing the country. I don't know how well the country was doing before this, but they certainly weren't mass slaughtering each other.

I can't think of one genocide or large war fought in the name of Buddhism. The Tibetans had civil war to determine which sect would rule it, but they didn't go out and try to conquer other lands. Ashoka did a lot of invading and killing, but he calmed right down once he converted to Buddhism, sent out emissaries to other lands instead. (Some people think Jesus was taught by Buddhist monks in Egypt).

Well Well, I have been spanked. Not really. I am not a historian nor am I an expert on religion but me thinks you are being just a bit touchy. I did not accuse Buddhism of being on the par with Christianity or the other monotheistic religions when it comes to atrocity, but they are not innocent. The trouble in Cambodia was, in fact carried out by communists, but they were communists who arose out of a Buddhist tradition. Japan, which has both Shinto and Buddhist traditions was involved in a bit of nastyness in the '30's. And I suspect, if I was a crack historian, I could find a number of wars that arose in the formation of south-east asia in the last twenty-five hundred years. I don't know if the armies of Thailand went out as "Holy Warriors" or not but they did go out and they were Buddhists.