[ShepherdsDog]

dudn't do student loans and I have no intention of relying on CPP to take care of me...especially with the attitude of those slackers just entering the work force

$1:

Try being inspiring instead of giving us no future.

Why? You have to find your own raison d'etre. Most of my crowd had the former lefty hippy crowd for teachers, the original slackers.

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[Tman1]

Maybe off topic but maybe prudent....why do the Conservatives and Liberals sift though leaders like orange pulp through a strainer but the NDPs, since I can remember, still have the same leader...Jack Layton?

Maybe more choice and intelligent politicans in Canada will goad young voters instead of the same crap every single year....just a thought.

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[Tman1]

Well, hence voter apathy. Somebody can't take the hint they won't vote for him the last 10 years....means nobody is going to vote.

[ShepherdsDog]

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Also, you think people can go to school without student loans nowadays?

I did it and my wife did it. Neither of us came fom wealthy families. You make sacrifices.

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Tman1 Tman1:

Well, hence voter apathy. Somebody can't take the hint they won't vote for him the last 10 years....means nobody is going to vote.

And what about Gilles Duceppe ?

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Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

Also, you think people can go to school without student loans nowadays?

I did it and my wife did it. Neither of us came fom wealthy families. You make sacrifices.

What kind of sacrifices?

I can only not eat so much food.

Times haven't gotten 'better' since you starved yourself through school.

The average savings rate right now (for everyone not just youth) is zero.

I did it too for my CEGEP, 2 years. I was working in a corner store and got a job with the CEGEP as a tutor to help other students with physics and chemistry courses.

Rice and pasta was quite my only meals. And coffee

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[ShepherdsDog]

I saved for my initial schooling while I was in the military and every year I went overseas to work while school was out and worked part time the rest of the year. My wife got scholarships and applied for bursaries. She landed good summer jobs and worked part time through the year as well.

When I went back to school, again I had savings and worked overseas part of the time as well as in Canada. My wife worked full time while she did her masters, and it took a little longer. I've just finished doinng my MA this year over here, while working full time. We've also been able to afford to have two kids, and own two houses, not because of privilege, but because of hard work and hard/wise choices. Perhaps you should lay down the weed for awhile and serve your country for a few years. You are fairly well renumerated and you gain skills and trades that can be applied outside of the military.

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Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

My question for such a structure in life is 'Why?'

Because you have to take responsibilities !

You can't live in the hook of other people people all your life. You have to build your own life. To do that, you have to take responsibilities.

You can have help when it's too hard but you can't live always with a 'protector' over your head telling you what to do. That's not liberty. That's not what you are looking for from what I read in your signature.

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