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Mustang1
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:16 pm
Tman1 Tman1: Well, considering it was a religion before Christianity it shouldn't be an awe shocker. Actually, we know almost nothing about Druids, their practices, social status or religion. There's no contemporary writing and the bulk of the primary evidence comes from Roman sources or archaeological digs. The stuff you see today is revival-based and has little to do with actual history.
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:26 pm
Mustang1 Mustang1: Tman1 Tman1: Well, considering it was a religion before Christianity it shouldn't be an awe shocker. Actually, we know almost nothing about Druids, their practices, social status or religion. There's no contemporary writing and the bulk of the primary evidence comes from Roman sources or archaeological digs. The stuff you see today is revival-based and has little to do with actual history. Exactly. Caeser is still the most commonly quoted primary source. Much after that, be they recent scholarly works or the recording of Irish myth by Christian monks is all after the fact. Druidism is very neo-pagan, just like Wicca and Asatru.
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:44 pm
..or Jedi or Scientology. People are trying to claim an ancient heritage that has nothing to do with their neo paganism, and therefore try and legitimize it.
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:47 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: ..or Jedi or Scientology. People are trying to claim an ancient heritage that has nothing to do with their neo paganism, and therefore try and legitimize it. Culture and religion do that all the time. Everyone likes to have those ties to the past.
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:48 pm
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:50 pm
I'm all for reinstating Dé Domhnaigh Crum-Dubh
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:51 pm
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada: ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: ..or Jedi or Scientology. People are trying to claim an ancient heritage that has nothing to do with their neo paganism, and therefore try and legitimize it. I agree. While it's important to understand the Druids and to work tirelessly to find out any information lost in time, the people who cherry-picked this from ancient history are not people we can learn from. They are modern people with a modern figment of an ancient religion. What is accomplished? There's several pages of cherry-picked political notions you've posted. What has that accomplished?
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:53 pm
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:57 pm
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada: Gunnair Gunnair: Mr_Canada Mr_Canada: I agree.
While it's important to understand the Druids and to work tirelessly to find out any information lost in time, the people who cherry-picked this from ancient history are not people we can learn from.
They are modern people with a modern figment of an ancient religion.
What is accomplished? There's several pages of cherry-picked political notions you've posted. What has that accomplished? The difference (this is key) between these two examples is that these guys aren't really what they say they are. I'd like to know how I'm not what I say I am, when my literature hasn't disappeared in the folds of time and become impossible to know, and the ideas I've presented are in relation to the lives we live. What is accomplished is a spreading of ideas. Funny, neo-pagans are spreading ideas. I think the key difference is that you simply don't like the idea that is being spread.
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:07 pm
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:08 pm
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada: Gunnair Gunnair: Funny, neo-pagans are spreading ideas. I think the key difference is that you simply don't like the idea that is being spread. I'm sorry Gunnair, that's not the case. Sadly, that rebuttal is often a cry for help in discourse. So be it.
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:13 pm
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:15 pm
Gunnair Gunnair: Mr_Canada Mr_Canada: I agree.
While it's important to understand the Druids and to work tirelessly to find out any information lost in time, the people who cherry-picked this from ancient history are not people we can learn from.
They are modern people with a modern figment of an ancient religion.
What is accomplished? There's several pages of cherry-picked political notions you've posted. What has that accomplished? $1: The difference (this is key) between these two examples is that these guys aren't really what they say they are. They are neo-pagan Druids is their best and modern understanding of them. They are what they claim. $1: I'd like to know how I'm not what I say I am, when my literature hasn't disappeared in the folds of time and become impossible to know, and the ideas I've presented are in relation to the lives we live. You probably aren't what you say you are because you politically, morally, and ethically reinvent yourself more often than Madonna.
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:16 pm
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:17 pm
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada: Hmm?
I said what I've said.
Call me a liar if you wish, but what I've said stands.
I don't actually care about these guys and wouldn't stop them. I wouldn't tell them they're wrong. They don't affect me. Live free and let live.
I question what they accomplish in following a religion that is a 100 piece puzzle and we only have 4-5 pieces because we lost the rest.
If they discover everything and this group adheres to new evidences quickly, I'll take it all back. K? $1: I wouldn't sit next to them on a city bus I'm considering calling bullshit...
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