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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:40 pm
 


Old trees suddenly falling down killing a few people every year as well, maybe all trees they should be registered.

The problem that people have understanding about the Long Gun Registry is that the system was already in place before the Poly Technique massacre happened.

Provincial cops at least once a month if not more would go to a Canadian Tire location near you and collect all of the "personal information" regarding individuals who has not only purchased a fire arm but also passed the fire arm course and received the appropriate license to purchase and bear one.

Why the Chiefs of Police across this nation support the gun registry because primarily it's a tool that they don't have to pay for. The feds do. Meaning you and I.

Any cop that responds to a call who assumes just because he checked a data bank he can let his guard down when answering a call isn't a cop I wouldn't want covering my ass.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:02 pm
 


Brenda Brenda:
You have to register your car, your RV, you have wear a helmet on a bicycle, you cannot smoke indoors or in a Vancouver park, but everybody should be able to freely own a gun?
The logic escapes me...


The argument that x has to be registered so why not register y is not an argument for registering guns its an argument for registering everything. You might as well say that since cars have to be registered why not register guns, knives, baseball bats, rope, blunt objects, flammable materials, people with the flu, peanuts, people with significant upper body strength, anyone whose ever taken a martial arts class, or anything else that has ever been used to kill someone. The decision to mandate registration for an object should be based on the effectiveness of such a registry and the associated costs. The gun registry just doesn't have enough benignity to justify its continued existence.

I can't speak for everyone on the pro-gun side but I'd be willing to wager a lot of us would object to at least a few items on that list. I defiantly think people should be able to smoke in a park.

Also I don't think a single person on this forum has ever suggested everyone should be able to own a gun, just those with no criminal record or mental health issues. Which BTW is a covered by licensing, not registration.

Although I wish the outcome of this vote was different, it doesn't matter to me too much. There are bigger problems with Canada's weapon policy than the long gun registry.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:06 pm
 


So you license it. What is the big deal with registering then?


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FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:
For me it's just another excuse for the west to secede from the rest of the country. Granted, I understand the reasoning behind the registry, why did it have to take over one billion dollars out of the taxpayers' pockets and continue to bleed money that could be better spent? All for a registry whose effectiveness is questionable at best and little more than a symbol of Liberal indulgence.

The registry have have survived by the skin off its teeth but the debate over it is far from over.


Stupid reason to secede. /facepalm


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Gunnair Gunnair:
tritium tritium:
FieryVulpine FieryVulpine:
For me it's just another excuse for the west to secede from the rest of the country. Granted, I understand the reasoning behind the registry, why did it have to take over one billion dollars out of the taxpayers' pockets and continue to bleed money that could be better spent? All for a registry whose effectiveness is questionable at best and little more than a symbol of Liberal indulgence.

The registry have have survived by the skin off its teeth but the debate over it is far from over.


...and join the USA.. R=UP


Fuck that.

Your bucking for an anti-Canuck medal I see.


wut! I thought I already had that.. even though I am not really anti-Canadian.

Nothing MORE Canadian that offering an opinion, stating your political views..

I may not agree with lots of your points, but I will tell you what Canada means to me.. and makes it so special.

In today's world there is so much fighting, Religion against Religion, Race against Race and tension over borders.

Canada is the one place in the world where you can set those difference aside and live in harmony with all cultures and races. A beacon to the rest of the world of how we should all live.


That is my opinion of Canada..


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:24 pm
 


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Nothing MORE Canadian that offering an opinion, stating your political views..

From an immigrants point of view (and just my and my family's opinion...) THAT is utter bullshit.

Here on CKA, definitely. But otherwise? HELL NO.

Just had to throw it in. Sorry if I offended anyone tho.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:31 pm
 


Brenda Brenda:
You have to register your car, your RV, you have wear a helmet on a bicycle, you cannot smoke indoors or in a Vancouver park, but everybody should be able to freely own a gun?
The logic escapes me...
You don't have to register a car. I've had a few over the years sit in my yard with no registration at all, and it didn't make me a criminal. Same with an RV. Not everyone can freely own a gun. The law in Canada forces you to pass an exam and apply for a license. Which prevents criminal use of guns about as much as the registry does.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:32 pm
 


So it's more the bureaucracy than anything else?


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Brenda Brenda:
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Nothing MORE Canadian that offering an opinion, stating your political views..

From an immigrants point of view (and just my and my family's opinion...) THAT is utter bullshit.

Here on CKA, definitely. But otherwise? HELL NO.

Just had to throw it in. Sorry if I offended anyone tho.


[huh]

cheap drugs?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:34 pm
 


Well Brenda, you should've known that having an accent automatically disqualifies you from being allowed to have an opinion.


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Well Brenda, you should've known that having an accent automatically disqualifies you from being allowed to have an opinion.

:lol: true :)


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:37 pm
 


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Brenda Brenda:
$1:
Nothing MORE Canadian that offering an opinion, stating your political views..

From an immigrants point of view (and just my and my family's opinion...) THAT is utter bullshit.

Here on CKA, definitely. But otherwise? HELL NO.

Just had to throw it in. Sorry if I offended anyone tho.


[huh]

cheap drugs?

[huh]
Canadians don't offer their opinion. "They" tell you what you want to hear. Just my personal experience off line.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:39 pm
 


Brenda Brenda:
So you license it. What is the big deal with registering then?



The cost for starters, well over a billion dollars already and no proof that it's done any good.

As well, just the symbolism. To a lot of rural and western peopleit seems like it's just another example of Ottawa not listening to them. Kpwtowing to the urban types who aren't even affected by the registery.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:40 pm
 


Gunnair Gunnair:
Well, the registry removes the unknown. Better to go to a place expecting the worst because you know its there as opposed to expecting the worst because you're wondering if its there.


It only removes the unknown for those law abiding citizens who took the time to register. Most cops go to EVERY call expecting the worst and hoping for the best.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:46 pm
 


Brenda Brenda:
Canadians don't offer their opinion. "They" tell you what you want to hear. Just my personal experience off line.


yeah I see that too...

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