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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:28 pm
Brenda Brenda: hurley_108 hurley_108: Brenda Brenda: I think those 2 stories are totally not comparable. This guy was 30. HER house was stocked with HIS stuff. I'm sure she told him plenty of times to get rid of it, or SHE would. She did. Tough luck. He's sick, needs to be admitted to a mental hospital. Ya, he's sick, but that doesn't make his stuff her property. It's HER house, that HE set on fire. How does her house make for HIS property? If you act like a child, you can count on being treated like a child. I tell my kids the same thing all the time, and they know I will throw it away and won't replace it. They learned their lesson. This man is 30. She didn't throw out his toys because he burned her house down. It was the other way around.
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Brenda
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:33 pm
She threw out his toys because she was sick and tired of having his stuff ruin her house. The guy is 30. If you want to stuff your own room with your stuff, cool. But it wasn't just his room anymore.
I take it you missed my point on the fire-thing.
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:39 pm
Brenda Brenda: She threw out his toys because she was sick and tired of having his stuff ruin her house. The guy is 30. If you want to stuff your own room with your stuff, cool. But it wasn't just his room anymore.
I take it you missed my point on the fire-thing. So the solution is to throw out what may very well be more than her house was worth in collectables to a location which it can no be recovered from? He acted wrong be she also committed a massive wrong by throwing out things that were not hers, a person does not gain ownership of something simply because it is on their property. There are a lot of solutions to this that do not involve throwing them out, including making him move out as it was her house and she has the right to control what stays in it. She could also have made him pay for a storage facility for them, there are many possibilities but she chose to get rid of what had effectively become his life.
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Brenda
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:03 pm
 I love it how a 30 year old man,who lives with his mom, and his toys, get defended  The guy is a loser. Period. He got what he had coming. He's not a baby. Act like one, and you will be treated like one  She shouldn't have MADE him pay for storage, he should have moved the hell out, or pay her by himself. If his toys were worth so much, he should have put them in a safe place. She should not have to put up with his bullshit. Finally, she doesn't anymore. You go, mom!!
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:16 pm
Brenda Brenda: ROTFL I love it how a 30 year old man,who lives with his mom, and his toys, get defended  The guy is a loser. Period. He got what he had coming. He's not a baby. Act like one, and you will be treated like one  She shouldn't have MADE him pay for storage, he should have moved the hell out, or pay her by himself. If his toys were worth so much, he should have put them in a safe place. She should not have to put up with his bullshit. Finally, she doesn't anymore. You go, mom!! I did some math, she destroyed an absolute minimum of $60,000 of collectables, that was assuming only 10 fit per box and they had not increased in value, the real value could easily be 5-10X that. Is it still such a small act to have gotten rid of them? The fact is that she had absolutely no right to do it and more than likely the guy had a job (you try buying that much stuff without a job). If her house mattered that much to her she should have had it fireproofed, I am pretty safe in assuming that most parents houses are considered safe places for your stuff when you have lived there for 30 years.
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:24 pm
Women have no perception of Value. Just like Driving, they can't do it. Don't ever expect them to figure it out. 
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Brenda
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:27 pm
If his toys were so important to him, and he DID have a job, WHY the hell was he living with his mom?
It's funny this is all her fault. If this was a woman with dolls, it would have been her fault too, and dad who threw her stuff away would be right. Funny how that works.
What if mom just didn't care about what it had cost? What if she was so sick and tired of cleaning up his shit and accepting his bullshit that she just couldn't take it anymore?
The guy is 30. There is NO reason at all for him to be living there and taking her hospitality for granted.
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:45 pm
Brenda Brenda: If his toys were so important to him, and he DID have a job, WHY the hell was he living with his mom?
It's funny this is all her fault. If this was a woman with dolls, it would have been her fault too, and dad who threw her stuff away would be right. Funny how that works.
What if mom just didn't care about what it had cost? What if she was so sick and tired of cleaning up his shit and accepting his bullshit that she just couldn't take it anymore?
The guy is 30. There is NO reason at all for him to be living there and taking her hospitality for granted. Then she should have kicked him out and not thrown away all his collectables, it is a very easy thing to do but she chose to get rid of the collectables so that he could not recover them. She caused major financial and mental stress on him to the point he became suicidal, the fact she ignored how much he cared for his collectables speaks wonders about her.
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:55 pm
Actually the 30 yr. old living with his mother isn't strange in Asian culture. It's very common place for your son(and his wife and kids) to live with you, while your daughter goes to live with her husband and his parents. I was disturbed to find out that it was not that unusual to find 10m yr. olds here who sleep with their mothers...or in their parents bedroom.
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Brenda
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:03 pm
I take it is not unusual in Asian culture either to set your moms house on fire when she does something you don't like, making you AND the mom who took care of you for 30 years, homeless. Sorry, I have no compassion for this moron, who calls them "the girlfriend he never had". In addition, I doubt the men defending this guy are thinking from an Asian point of view 
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:04 pm
Brenda Brenda: If his toys were so important to him, and he DID have a job, WHY the hell was he living with his mom?
Multiple reasons. The first of which is that in Japan the kids are socially obligated to take care of their parents. It's not the law, mind you, but the social obligations in Japanese culture are far more powerful than any mere law. Until his mother dies this kid is socially obligated to take care of her. Perhaps he could be married and have mom live with him but chances are she's a kakadenka harpie who drives off any women the guy has ever met. Second is the price of real estate. Japan is the home of the 100 year fixed-rate mortgage. When you buy a home you and your kids and their kids and their kids get to pay off the loan. So while he may have been living with mom he's probably on the hook for the mortgage and can't get his own place. Third is that he may be jobless due to the vast number of layoffs that have been going on in Japan. No one in Japan has job security anymore. Fourth is that his mom may well have raised him to think he is the freaking Emperor and now the kid can't function in society. The Japanese lavish attention and everything else on their sons and this makes some of them very, very difficult to be around given that not everyone else may think Mrs. Tokugawa's litte boy isn't worth worshipping and addressing in high formal Japanese. Hate to say, but this kids living arrangement is not unusual for Japan and nothing should be read into this.
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Brenda
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:06 pm
$1: The first of which is that in Japan the kids are socially obligated to take care of their parents. And with that, all discussion ends. Because he didn't. He took care of him.
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:11 pm
Brenda Brenda: $1: The first of which is that in Japan the kids are socially obligated to take care of their parents. And with that, all discussion ends. Because he didn't. He took care of him. Only after he had a complete mental breakdown, I believe the term is called temporary insanity.
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Brenda
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:16 pm
jeff744 jeff744: Brenda Brenda: $1: The first of which is that in Japan the kids are socially obligated to take care of their parents. And with that, all discussion ends. Because he didn't. He took care of him. Only after he had a complete mental breakdown, I believe the term is called temporary insanity. He took care of him when he stuffed her house. It's funny tho, that he had a mental breakdown when he set fire to the house, but she didn't when she threw his toys away. Or at least, that is what is suggested here. I guess I should feel sorry for the guy. I don't.
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:19 pm
Brenda Brenda: He took care of him when he stuffed her house.
It's funny tho, that he had a mental breakdown when he set fire to the house, but she didn't when she threw his toys away. Or at least, that is what is suggested here.
I guess I should feel sorry for the guy. I don't. His entire life was thrown away by his mom and he became suicidal, it is very clear that at that point he was not thinking clearly, he even stated he would have died alongside his collectable if given the chance.
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