[andyt]

Do they really have somebody sitting and watching all those cameras in real time? I would be surprised.

I dunno, I see a body lying in the road, and if at all safe to do so, I'm going to stop in front of it and put my 4 ways on so nobody else runs over it - and certainly call the cops.

What's that saying about assume and ass and u and me?

[Strutz]

Thanos Thanos:

1) This could have happened in any major city or town in Canada. And it does also happen in any major city and town in Canada. To suggest it's exclusively a 'Calgary attitude problem' is just the usual ignorant bashing from the usual ignorant anti-Calgary haters.

2) This particular accident happened on or very near to a high-speed ramp that enters onto another higher-speed road. I drive it myself at least several times per day. There's no shoulder there which makes it too dangerous for any non-emergency or City maintenance vehicle to stop along there. This didn't happen in the 'burbs in front of a strip mall or someone's house where it would have been much safer to stop.

3) If it was caught on camera that means the police or traffic monitoring people saw it happen live. They themselves should have been the ones to send an ambulance out immediately instead of waiting around for a motorist to call it in. And if the cameras were monitoring the location why were they fiddle-fucking around waiting for an untrained motorist to start administering first-aid?

Just my two cents. The police really screwed up on this one by going public with a silly 'oh, these cruel heartless people these days' rant. Especially if they didn't bother to make the rest of the facts of the incident and location known.

PS: Three summers ago I called the police so they could save a drunk who had wandered onto and passed out right on the C-Train tracks that ran outside my former condo. I did this because, even early in the morning, a train was eventually going to come along and run over the guy. So I don't need to hear from anyone who doesn't live here that no one in Calgary cares or looks out for other people. Anyone who says otherwise, well, GFY.

Good points. This incident is sadly a sign of the times we live in. Too many people are only concerned with what goes on in the little box in front of them. I don't see this as a "Calgary" incident, it just happened to happen in Calgary and made the news. Some of the comments linked to the story are pretty disturbing but sadly typical.

[desertdude]

Yes agreed, Its more a sign of the times than a problem located to specific city or country. Unfortunately here are numerous such examples all over the world of such.

[BionicBunny]

I would love to take a potshot at Calgary but I must agree, this is not just Calgary. This is a a problem with society in general. People are no longer getting involved, people no longer want to give their name and people no longer want to stand up for something.

It happens in any city you look at in both the working world and the non. I'll give two examples.

1. A number of years ago in a small city (250 thousand pop.), there was an elderly man on a street corner wandering around with his arms extended asking "help me, help me". No one was stopping for him but I did. I asked him "how can I help you sir.". I found out he was blind and was a bit lost. He just needed someone to help him across the street. After that, he had his bearings.

2. I have been told by a corporate retail chain that I am not to assist in security in anyway. If an employee is attacked, I am to call for security and do nothing else. I was also told I should not assist anyone in medical distress, only call those who are trained. This was after I helped put pressure on a bleeding wound to an elderly woman who fell and tore open her arm. I was thanked by the store's manager but was told I am not supposed to aide. This apparently is the company policy.


What a sad world we live in.

[Dragom]

BionicBunny BionicBunny:

I have been told by a corporate retail chain that I am not to assist in security in anyway.

When they say that, just nod and accept that they may fire you over that.

You may get fired, your wife may leave you, the cops may send you to jail and God may send you too hell, but you can't allow others to dictate your moral choices for you.

[2Cdo]

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

No surprise from Cowtown. They've long been oblivious to the rest of the world to begin with.

-J.

Says the guy from Toronto.

I've met far more polite, nice people from the west than I ever did from Toronto.

[jenkins]

nice driven

[jenkins]

nice

[Benn]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

So let me get this straight. Mr. Cop is upset there wasn't a flood of 911 calls to report this? Ummm maybe cuz Calgarians are aware there's a camera there and assumed the cops already knew what was going on and were responding, instead of waiting for a good samaritan to confirm what the police could already see with their own eyes.
Sounds like some sort of fucked up social experiment if you ask me.

If you are bleeding out on the road after getting nailed you would be fine "Assuming" someone is watching on camera? I'm sure there are a lot of cameras for one person to watch and people on the ground would most often see first.

For God's sake at least call 911 for the poor saps.

Here in Quebec you can get charged if you see something like this and don't stop to offer some kind of help, even to call 911.

[Yogi]

We, as a society, have a moral obligation, to look out for one another.
True, in this particular instance, the accident was observed live by those monitoring the traffic cams,but what was their location and ETA in relation to the accident scene? People were right there who could have rendered immediate assistance such as lifting a motorcycle off an injured person, or staunching the flow of blood, or even just covering the injured with blankets-stopping the onset of shock-, or just simply providing comfort until professional help arrived. Absolutely disgusting!

[andyt]

$1:

Diffusion of Responsibility

http://www.psywww.com/intropsych/ch15_social/diffusion_of_responsibility.html

$1:

The Bystander Effect

http://psychology.about.com/od/socialpsychology/a/bystandereffect.htm

[Bodah]

BionicBunny BionicBunny:

2. I have been told by a corporate retail chain that I am not to assist in security in anyway. If an employee is attacked, I am to call for security and do nothing else. I was also told I should not assist anyone in medical distress, only call those who are trained. This was after I helped put pressure on a bleeding wound to an elderly woman who fell and tore open her arm. I was thanked by the store's manager but was told I am not supposed to aide. This apparently is the company policy.


What a sad world we live in.

That's sad. Although I understand for insurance reasons why they probably have that policy some nut that got hurt probably sued the company when another customer helped them out making things worse for them.

or,

Their lawyer said something to the effect under their liability policy "under no circumstances should other customers come to the aid of anyone on your business premises."

It's human nature to want to help out other people in distress. Lawyers aren't going to stop me from doing that. Sueing me for helping another person out I doubt would be good PR for them.

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

Why do I even waste my fucking time here?

Good question.

[ASLplease]

desertdude desertdude:

Although still does not excuse the bad level of driving and having the highest road death toll according to population size in the world

I'd be interested in a link. thanks.

[Thanos]

Go figure, it wasn't anywhere near as cut-n-dried as the original story suggested. The police spokesman over-reacted and the shitty local media ran with a 'story' that barely qualifies as a half-truth. Here's an update.

Ten bucks says that none of the fuckers who pushed the original slander will apologize or do anything to correct themselves. Typical.