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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:14 am
 


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desertdude desertdude:
From whatever I've read there isn't any actual proof of him even lobbing any gernades and there are various conflicting accounts of what actually happened.

And thats what I'm saying try him under Candian law in Canada and not the modern day concentration camp Gitmo


If he was innocent then of course set him free, If he was throwing grenades at Uniformed American one of the a medic though that would be hard to ignore.

He is being tried lets see what happens.


There seems to be some doubt about if he was the one throwing the grenade.

But anyway, he was fighting in a war. The US soldiers were shooting at him. Since when do we prosecute combatants? Just because he didn't have a uniform?

But, isn't there some clause in Canadian citizenship about losing it if you fight for another country? We could use that on him. Not as a special case, but if that is the law, uphold it.

The child soldier argument is pretty powerful too. Either we recognize and abide by it or scrap the whole idea. Do we really want the latter?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:15 am
 


Rustydowg Rustydowg:
in my view he relinquished his citizenship when he departed Canada and waged war against Canada (jtf2) and her allies. How I see it he is guilty of murder or high treason. I spent 11 months there and my mother did not want me to go ....... His mother sent him. That's positive parenting. we need to show her the door as well. Now if he is allowed to return to Canada am I going to need to watch my back as a Afghanistan vet? I served my country's interest now it is only fair that my country look out for my safety and keep Khadr out of this country



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I share this dream.



Sadly I also know Canada well enough.. not going to happen.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:20 am
 


$1:
Under current law there is no provision for involuntary loss of Canadian citizenship except:
naturalized Canadians can be deprived of citizenship if convicted of fraud in relation to their citizenship application, or their original admission to Canada as an immigrant
second-generation Canadians by descent may lose Canadian citizenship automatically on their 28th birthday if they do not meet the requirements for retention
Many Canadians lost Canadian citizenship prior to 15 February 1977 through:
naturalization in another country
long residence overseas (prior to 1967)
if a child, based on a parent’s loss of Canadian citizenship
See History of Canadian citizenship
A Canadian citizen who holds another nationality may in some cases renounce Canadian citizenship voluntarily.


I agree that there should be loss of Canadian citizenship if you fight against Canada. I suppose Kadhr rises to that level. But, since he was a child soldier, I actually don't think this should apply to him.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:38 am
 


The only regret that I have is that two extra bullets weren't used on him during that firefight. That way we wouldn't have had to hear anything about this disgusting little pantload over and over and fucking over again over the last eight years. Son of a bitch! :evil:


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:43 am
 


Then where is the difference between you and the dogs that you are fighting.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:51 am
 


Plenty, because I'm not a terrorist or a mass murderer on the level of the Al Qaeda membership.

Did your head out of your ass and knock it off with the bogus moral relativism and equivalencies. It's disgusting.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:55 am
 


Sometimes, killing these guys is the best way to go.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:59 am
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Sometimes, killing these guys is the best way to go.



Interesting there havent been many prisoner stories in the last few years.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:07 am
 


Coincidence eh martin?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:55 pm
 


He should never be allowed back in Canada and his scum bag family should be deported.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:00 pm
 


But on the plus side, big brother Abdullah is now free to attend the trial and be a character witness for poor little Omar. :roll:


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:10 pm
 


desertdude desertdude:
Then where is the difference between you and the dogs that you are fighting.


+1. Justice applies to everyone, or to no one. Especially if we find them despicable and repugnant.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:34 pm
 


Well then this should apply equally to the other side too, I'm sure they find you despicable and repugnant too. So does that mans your fair game ?

That what I mean earlier by stooping to their levels your no better than them and no one is doing the right thing ot have the moral highground. Just a bunch of savages fighting it out.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:49 pm
 


desertdude desertdude:
Well then this should apply equally to the other side too, I'm sure they find you despicable and repugnant too. So does that mans your fair game ?

That what I mean earlier by stooping to their levels your no better than them and no one is doing the right thing ot have the moral highground. Just a bunch of savages fighting it out.



We have always been 'fair game' to those guys. Fire needs to fought with fire, not hugs.


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