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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:59 am
Both the Germans and the Japanese got what they deserved when Bomber Command and the USAAF bombed the shit out of their cities.
If the Luftwaffe or the Imperial Japanese Army Air Force would have had similar bombing capacity, they would have levelled our cities too.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:04 am
EyeBrock EyeBrock: Both the Germans and the Japanese got what they deserved when Bomber Command and the USAAF bombed the shit out of their cities.
If the Luftwaffe or the Imperial Japanese Army Air Force would have had similar bombing capacity, they would have levelled our cities too. Indeed, both the Germans and the Japanese had their own nuclear programs and if either had developed the bomb is there anyone who thinks for one second that the Japanese and Germans would have hesitated to use it? The only thing that really riles the Japanese is that they lost the war.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:10 am
Zipperfish Zipperfish: Apologize? These guys started the war with the US, and then managed somehow to be eveni more brutal than the frickin' Nazis in its prosecution.
Adn what's the first thing Japan does when it gets its military back? That's right, join the Iraq invasion--another slaughter. They haven't leanred a thing. What? they helped an ally by sending 600 troops, a minuscule number in comparison to most other nations and they have already withdrawn them. Japan also has no offensive capabilities, their constitution prohibits it.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:12 am
jeff744 jeff744: What? they helped an ally by sending 600 troops, a minuscule number in comparison to most other nations and they have already withdrawn them. Japan also has no offensive capabilities, their constitution prohibits it. Japan has offensive capabilities. Officially, no, practically speaking, yes.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:13 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: EyeBrock EyeBrock: Both the Germans and the Japanese got what they deserved when Bomber Command and the USAAF bombed the shit out of their cities.
If the Luftwaffe or the Imperial Japanese Army Air Force would have had similar bombing capacity, they would have levelled our cities too. Indeed, both the Germans and the Japanese had their own nuclear programs and if either had developed the bomb is there anyone who thinks for one second that the Japanese and Germans would have hesitated to use it? The only thing that really riles the Japanese is that they lost the war. Because they have no right to be angry over the use of a weapon that even today causes extremely high cancer and birth defect rates. Japan attacked Pearl yes, but the damage has been repaired, Japan was nuked and even today suffers the after effects.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:15 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: jeff744 jeff744: What? they helped an ally by sending 600 troops, a minuscule number in comparison to most other nations and they have already withdrawn them. Japan also has no offensive capabilities, their constitution prohibits it. Japan has offensive capabilities. Officially, no, practically speaking, yes. I could own a rifle and have offensive capabilities, the difference for Japan is that they don't pursue weapons that are only an offensive type. Japan could go nuclear in under a month, they simply choose not to.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:25 am
jeff744 jeff744: Because they have no right to be angry over the use of a weapon that even today causes extremely high cancer and birth defect rates. Japan attacked Pearl yes, but the damage has been repaired, Japan was nuked and even today suffers the after effects. But that's the thing. Nobody really knew about the effects of nuclear weaponry until after World War II. Hell, John Wayne had a movie filmed at a bomb test site. The effects of radiation we're fully understood until after the bombs were used.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:27 am
jeff744 jeff744: Because they have no right to be angry over the use of a weapon that even today causes extremely high cancer and birth defect rates. Japan attacked Pearl yes, but the damage has been repaired, Japan was nuked and even today suffers the after effects. Cry me a river. Where's your sympathy for these people? http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&sour ... =&gs_rfai=
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:17 pm
jeff744 jeff744: BartSimpson BartSimpson: EyeBrock EyeBrock: Both the Germans and the Japanese got what they deserved when Bomber Command and the USAAF bombed the shit out of their cities.
If the Luftwaffe or the Imperial Japanese Army Air Force would have had similar bombing capacity, they would have levelled our cities too. Indeed, both the Germans and the Japanese had their own nuclear programs and if either had developed the bomb is there anyone who thinks for one second that the Japanese and Germans would have hesitated to use it? The only thing that really riles the Japanese is that they lost the war. Because they have no right to be angry over the use of a weapon that even today causes extremely high cancer and birth defect rates. Japan attacked Pearl yes, but the damage has been repaired, Japan was nuked and even today suffers the after effects. Tough shit really and they have nobody to blame but the Japanese.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:19 pm
Japan instigated hostilities with the United States of America. Done. The United States of America used a weapon on a military target that it felt not only demonstrated a new weapon but hopefully avoided a massive amphibious assault on the main islands. Done. It was warranted and justified. Done. Anything that uses contemporary views, knowledge or agendas is simply revisionist dreck. Here's hoping that stays away from this thread. 
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:46 pm
Mustang1 Mustang1: Japan instigated hostilities with the United States of America. Done. The United States of America used a weapon on a military target that it felt not only demonstrated a new weapon but hopefully avoided a massive amphibious assault on the main islands. Done. It was warranted and justified. Done. Anything that uses contemporary views, knowledge or agendas is simply revisionist dreck. Here's hoping that stays away from this thread.  
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:34 pm
$1: Anything that uses contemporary views, knowledge or agendas is simply revisionist dreck. Here's hoping that stays away from this thread.
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:48 pm
jeff744 jeff744: What? they helped an ally by sending 600 troops, a minuscule number in comparison to most other nations and they have already withdrawn them. Japan also has no offensive capabilities, their constitution prohibits it. Whatever--they've been out of the war business for 60-odd years and the first one they pick is an unprovoked invasion of a soveriegn country based on a bunch of lies that left hundreds of thousands of civilians dead. Don't even get me started on their pervy porn! 
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:10 pm
Zipperfish Zipperfish: Don't even get me started on their pervy porn!  Don't even cite Japanese pervy porn if you're not going to post any proof! I don't care how big a consensus you have on Japanese pervy porn, I want to see proof! 
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:00 pm
Okay. I asked for it. 
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