[TuavDan]

Where do you think the money is coming from to pay "Terrorist Khadr's" lawyer's from.

[kenmore]

What I don't understand is harper wants to mimimize the dept. of veterans affairs because he says most of the vets of WWII are dead... duh! that doesn't say much for the veterans of the current war or vets from other wars in recent time.. harper is such a tool..

[Khar]

Kenmore, if you read the article and the assosiated literature, you'd find that overall the amount of people covered by this program has gone down. I mentioned this in my post on the last page. This was discussed by the Minister of Veteran Affairs in the news previously, which I also mentioned in my last post.

The problem is that the people who are Vets now do have more intensive injuries on average and require a greater deal of care. This is because of greater advancements in medicine, especially battlefield medicine, which we simply didn't have, even during the engagements before the last two or three decades.

So your criticism in this case is incorrect. The overall amount of Veterans has decreased, so Harper is not being a tool in saying that there is a reduced load to handle. The problem here is an inability, until recently, for anyone to notice that the costs of care per capita, PPP adjusted, has risen. The earliest article I remember and was able to find on this topic was November 2009, yet these changes have been occurring for decades for the same reasons Harper gave under various parties, and the most recent major documentation is from 2006 -- hardly a recent change. It does not help that, in general, Canadians have criticized our politicians if they are heavy military spenders, so cutting corners is a charge we placed on them by considering it part of their platforms. As a related program, it should be expected that this come under fire.

No, I do not think it's been smart what politicans have been saying for years, so I wouldn't single out any single leader over the past few governments as being alone in these comments or singularly responsible. Any failure in these cases at least in part lies upon us as voters for not being aware of it as an issue, and the media for making no one aware of it. The politicians are not alone in any problems within the current system.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

DerbyX DerbyX:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Ohh is that what I think? Well princess, we know yer real name now, it's the Amazing Kreskin. Quick, what number am I thinking of?

DerbyX DerbyX:

69 dudes.

Sorry princess, I'm not into your type of fantasies. Funny how the first thing you thought of was 69 guys though. How delightfully Freudian.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Nice backpeddle considering you quoted ME before espousing your "wisdom" to the great unwashed masses.

DerbyX DerbyX:

That's not back peddling. You went into a partisan hissy-fit rant against Libs over things you have no clue about. You didn't cry about Harper and I called you on it.

Called me on what? The fact that Harper inherited this mess from Chretien who inherited it from Mulroney before that and so on?
As far as MY supposed partisanship goes, I voted for Chretien you jackass! Well, the first time anyway. And read on MacDuff, you'll see what I think after I got past the original article and did some digging. Something you couldn't bother doing yourself because yer too busy trolling.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Hmmm I'm getting hammered in other threads? Wow, you and I have a HUGE difference in what being hammered entails. As far as a personal grudge goes, we have our BIG differences of opinion on religion and /or God, if you've taken it personally, that's your problem, not mine.

DerbyX DerbyX:

Yeah you are. The fact that you have exploded on me before with angry idiocy after I defeated your logic over Hitler being a christian all points to a personal grudge sunshine.

Defeated?? HAHAHAHAHA dude, utter speculation doth not a defeat make. I smoked you like fat slab of fine salmon. Deal with it. All you provided were the paranoid/delusional ramblings of an historical revisionist. The I got to read more of your insane rantings that all Christians are evil because of the actions of a few. Now, again,Hitler mixed SEVERAL religions into his doctrine, including muslim and norse mythology. I guess that makes Hitler a muslim too then right? And a Viking? You didn't prove shit and the fact you came on here and jumped all over my original post shows that it is YOU that has taken it personally. I made a valid point about a particularily crass move, and you come on yapping about my partisanship because the article wasn't about Chretien and the Liberals. Well of course, we ALL know that you have NEVER made a post that had dick all to do with the orignal article. Troll on, Rebuffed

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Let me put it this way, if there was a federal Marijuana Party member in my riding, I'd vote for them. IF, by some fluke the party got elected to lead, don't think for one minute I'm not gonna shit on them if they keep fucking around and don't do their jobs.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Yep, yer right, handing our country over to foreign interests a la Mulroney and Harper, screwing our veterans a la pretty much every PM that's been in power, handing out billions of dollars for nothing a la Chretien and Harper and so on ad nauseum. I'm very unreasonable being disgusted about that.
I should be ashamed of myself for not having the same low expectations of gov't you do.

DerbyX DerbyX:

Case in point. You have no idea what it takes to run a country and assume the big bad government is doing bad by the vets. So far the current government and every other government for the last 50 years has done bad for the military, vets, tax-payer, provinces, victims of crime, students, parents, blondes, redheads, brunettes ..... Get the picture?

Yeah, yer a plagiarist. You just repeated what I said previously and added a few more groups to the equation. Care to take any other points I made and claim them as your own by adding a few more superfluous words to it?

DerbyX DerbyX:

I notice you didn't exactly uphold the other points of the article namely that those criticizing the Harper government over their Vets treatment also cite the F35 purchase. Will you support scaling that back and taking that money to do what you want? Ever donated directly to the cause?

Have you? As for the F-35, you mean the one that Lockheed Martin had won an open competition for in 2001 to supply the JSF -- a time when Canada's previous Liberal government was in power and already helping to fund the project.? That F-35?? The same F-35 that could provide work for some 85 Canadian businesses throughout the entire 3000+ unit production? But hey, let's blame that bad ol F-35. Sure, I mean all the money the Cons and Libs have both thrown at immigration, legal AND illegal, would be MUCH better spent on our veterans. But I just can't see a Liberal even giving that a first thought, let alone a second thought. Frankly I can't see the CPC giving it much thought either. They just don't have the nads. And the point is kind of moot in regards to the F-35 because one way or the other, our fleet of -18's has 10 years left in them at best. We only have 80 servicable a/c left from an original fleet of 138. However, if you wish to talk about the military, economic, and geo-political impacts of the F-35 on Canada, there is already a thread or 2 about the F-35 in which I would happily discuss those issues. Not gonna let you derail another thread.
Oh and to answer your question for shits and giggles there princess, yes I have donated directly to the cause. Every year I donate to the local Legion where I live. Can you say the same?

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Got any leftover straw from that argument? Rumplestiltskin is over and I'd like to get some gold thread. So my core beliefs in God and Christ are wrong cuz YOU say there's no such people/entities. And you accuse me of thinking I'm smarter than everyone else. Funny stuff that.

DerbyX DerbyX:

Again you got it wrong. You are more then willing to call a spade a spade ie speak bluntly and honestly when you can denograte things you don't care about but when I point out that christians are doing evil you go batshit crazy and do everything possible to discount those people as christians and any connection to JC and his teachings despite the loads of evidence I can produce showing quite the opposite.

And this has WHAT to do with the article again?? Keep the red herrings and strawmen coming. You don't think I care about Canada? You don't think I care about successive governments pissing away our nation's future? As for your "evidence" it's a load of shit and you know it. People can call themsleves anything they want, doesn't mean they are. If I go to the arena every day and play pick up hockey with my buds, does that make me a hockey player? Hell by your sense of twisted logic I must be an actor because I was in a couple of plays. Oh wait, I'm missing the main ingredient. "I AM AN ACTOR!" There, now I'm an actor because I said I was.

DerbyX DerbyX:

You have your biases and partisan motives too.

Wrong again princess, your bias is truly blind. You can't even see the good that religion can and has done for people. For you all religion and religious people are inherently evil, no matter what their personal actions have been. You refuse to separate the individual from the group. Some cops do bad things. Are all cops inherently bad then? Ohhh hey, I'll use your example. Chretien hated the military, thusly by default, you hate the military too because yer a Liberal. See how that works? So now we know, you hate the Canadian military and it's soldiers.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Yeah, that's right, hospital beds for veterans ONLY became a problem after Harper got in office.

DerbyX DerbyX:

In a way yes.

I won't even bother with the rest of what you said because the quoted comment of yours is so incredibly fucking dumb it boggles the mind. You can't even keep your arguments straight. On one hand you simply repeated what I said about successive governments passing the buck, and then say that in way yes, it only became a problem AFTER Harper got in. Which is it princess? Oh and here's the best part since you accuse me of dodging what you consider to be a valid point in the article, ie the F-35. Iggy is in there like a fly on shit trying to make hay over this article like he actually gives a damn. I wonder where he was when Harper wasn't acting on his promise to fix this? I don't seem to recall Iggy or the Opposition screaming at him to get on with it. Actually, I don't recall hearing Iggy or the Opposition screaming while Harper and the CPC were busy closing beds. What I do recall hearing is a bunch of threats to call an election and a bunch of bullshit rhetoric. You'd think if Iggy really cared, we would have heard something from him OR his office over the last 2 years about this. At this point, the only difference between Iggy and Harper is party affiliation. Other than that, they are both bottom feeders.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Mulroney passed the buck to Chretien, who passed the buck to Martin, who passed the buck to Harper, who will most assuredly pass the buck to the next person and so on and so on.

DerbyX DerbyX:

Next time don't signal anybody out then if you believe that.

I singled Chretien out because his move was particularily callous. He didn't just pass the buck, he made sure he tore it up into little pieces before passing it. If you don't think I have the right to bitch about someone I voted for, I'm sure you'll feel much more comfortable in a nice fascist environment.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Get it yet???? This has been an ongoing problem for wayyy to long now. A lack of beds pales in comparison to firing the man who was going to HELP our veterans get the proper care and treatment they deserve. Did you ever stop to think (pardon the exaggeration) that if the THEN Defense Minister had been allowed to do his part, a lack of beds might not be an issue now?

DerbyX DerbyX:

I don't think for a moment he would have done it nor do I think he would have been any better then the guys we have now who were even more able to get it done what with military loving Harper and of course many more years of foresight to see the problem needed fixing.

You don't think he would have done it? Obviously Chretien thought he would, otherwise he wouldn't have shitcanned him.

DerbyX DerbyX:

Why hasn't our current Defense Minister addressed it? Does he hate the Vets?

I'm gonna give you that one Derby because no government has had a morally defensible position when it comes to the lack of care for our veterans. This current crop of shitheads isn't any better. From closing down hospital beds for vets, to wanting to completely dispense with the Dept. of Veteran's Affairs or reduce the number of employees due to the "shrinking" population of our veterans. The reality is there are hundreds of thousands of modern day Canadian Forces and RCMP veterans and their families who require assistance from this department.
Apparently you have to have served no later than Korea to be considered a vet, and being RCMP doesn't seem to count anymore, according to Harper's line of thinking anyway. However, like it or not, there are two sides to this problem and neither side has anything to brag about. It was the Liberals that sent our current generation of soldiers to A-stan and did so without making sure the proper, or at least sufficient infrastructure was in place for them when they returned, as well as the rest of our veterans. They had just as long as Harper has had to do something about it. Doesn't excuse Harper's or the CPC's recent actions either. After doing some more searching(it's amazing what you find when yer looking for something else) it seems that there have been a disturbing number of bed closures for veterans during the last few years. Which makes me wonder if old Lego Hair's Lego hair is snapped on too tight. July 14th of this year in London is the most recent I ran across, to the tune of some 40-something beds, with more to follow in the next couple of months. Which makes the timing of this story make Harper look like the asshole he's turned out to be. Doesn't make Iggy look good either when he includes his retarded comments in the article while having said nothing over the closures before this story broke.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

What's to understand? Yer a partisan liberal hack. No surprises there.

You are a partisan hack in your own right. You just haven't got any current candidates you care to hack about.[/quote]
Hmmmm really? There are more than a few threads in here where I've ragged on Harper for being a clone in the same vein as Ol' Moosejaw, whom I revile with a passion. Not my fault you didn't see those threads. Not to mention the digs at Iggy and Layton. Although I don't really take shots at Layton too much, it's just too easy. So move along HackDuff, I grow weary of your partisan hackery and trolling.

[DerbyX]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Sorry princess, I'm not into your type of fantasies. Funny how the first thing you thought of was 69 guys though. How delightfully Freudian.

Nope. Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure

[Bill and Ted meet themselves]
Ted: OK wait. If you guys are really us, what number are we thinking of?
Bill, Ted: 69, dudes.
Bill, Ted: Whoa.
[quadruple air guitar solo]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Nice backpeddle considering you quoted ME before espousing your "wisdom" to the great unwashed masses.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

As far as MY supposed partisanship goes, I voted for Chretien you jackass! Well, the first time anyway. And read on MacDuff, you'll see what I think after I got past the original article and did some digging. Something you couldn't bother doing yourself because yer too busy trolling.

Nope. You through a partisan jab and I simply responded in kind by making damn sure you realized IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT AND NOT THE PREVIOUS ONES WHEN THE ARTICLE IS ENTIRELY ABOUT THERE ACTIONS.

Everything else you said was just rubbish.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Hmmm I'm getting hammered in other threads? Wow, you and I have a HUGE difference in what being hammered entails. As far as a personal grudge goes, we have our BIG differences of opinion on religion and /or God, if you've taken it personally, that's your problem, not mine.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Defeated?? HAHAHAHAHA dude, utter speculation doth not a defeat make. I smoked you like fat slab of fine salmon. Deal with it. All you provided were the paranoid/delusional ramblings of an historical revisionist. The I got to read more of your insane rantings that all Christians are evil because of the actions of a few. Now, again,Hitler mixed SEVERAL religions into his doctrine, including muslim and norse mythology. I guess that makes Hitler a muslim too then right? And a Viking? You didn't prove shit and the fact you came on here and jumped all over my original post shows that it is YOU that has taken it

Nope. You got hammered there sunshine just like Dayseed hammered you in the evolution thread. No matter what you say Hitler was born and raised a catholic and that alone makes him christian. He never renounced his faith nor did it renounce him. He was never excommunicated and he never said anything that led anybody to believe (until revisionists well after) he was anything but a christian faithful. As for your continued nonsense that various attempts to "Germanize" christianity well then that means there are no christians anywhere since he didn't do anything the prods didn't, the catholics, the mormons, the .....

I showed with evidence that he was and remained a christian. 'nuff said. No red herrings that all christians are evil because of what he did. Just refuting the absolute lie that all christians are good because christians don't do evil circular nonsense. Of course when you believe some mystical sky daddy waved his magic wand and created everything then logic isn't your strong suit.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

I made a valid point about a particularily crass move, and you come on yapping about my partisanship because the article wasn't about Chretien and the Liberals. Well of course, we ALL know that you have NEVER made a post that had dick all to do with the orignal article. Troll on, Rebuffed

Nope. I simply reminded you who was at fault and who was the focus of the article. You then threw a hissy fit.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Let me put it this way, if there was a federal Marijuana Party member in my riding, I'd vote for them. IF, by some fluke the party got elected to lead, don't think for one minute I'm not gonna shit on them if they keep fucking around and don't do their jobs.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Yeah, yer a plagiarist. You just repeated what I said previously and added a few more groups to the equation. Care to take any other points I made and claim them as your own by adding a few more superfluous words to it?

Wrong again sunshine. I simply pointed out you got no idea what you are talkig about and just seem to want to bitch and piss and moan with no real answers.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Have you? As for the F-35, you mean the one that Lockheed Martin had won an open competition for in 2001 to supply the JSF -- a time when Canada's previous Liberal government was in power and already helping to fund the project.? That F-35?? The same F-35 that could provide work for some 85 Canadian businesses throughout the entire 3000+ unit production? But hey, let's blame that bad ol F-35. Sure, I mean all the money the Cons and Libs have both thrown at immigration, legal AND illegal, would be MUCH better spent on our veterans.

Again case in point. Just some crass complaint naming funding you don't agree with and claiming it can be earmarked for something you think is more important. Gee why didn't I think of that? The article claims the F35 can help the vets but you have all the answers in that immigration should take the hit. BRILLIANT. What should we scale back? Immigration officers? Customs officers? Oh, you me lets simple close the doors to immigration. How storm fronty of you.

You aren't even smart enough to realize that its a standard government clause to make companies that want to sell us hardware like the F35 spend money in Canada and that would apply to the F18E. BTW, do you realize we can get the same number of planes or even twice as many F18E Super Hornets and still have billions left over for the vets?

Why do you still want the F35? Do you hate the idea of the billions we saved going to the Vets? Do you hate the Vets that munch?

See how that works?

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

But I just can't see a Liberal even giving that a first thought, let alone a second thought. Frankly I can't see the CPC giving it much thought either. They just don't have the nads. And the point is kind of moot in regards to the F-35 because one way or the other, our fleet of -18's has 10 years left in them at best. We only have 80 servicable a/c left from an original fleet of 138. However, if you wish to talk about the military, economic, and geo-political impacts of the F-35 on Canada, there is already a thread or 2 about the F-35 in which I would happily discuss those issues. Not gonna let you derail another thread.

You've already done that sunshine. Of course you still aren't smart enough to realize that this very article demands the F35 money FOR THE VETS and that not wanting the F35 DOESN'T MEAN THE PERSON WANTS NO AIRCRAFT.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Oh and to answer your question for shits and giggles there princess, yes I have donated directly to the cause. Every year I donate to the local Legion where I live. Can you say the same?

Nope and I don't believe you have either and I don't care that it pisses you off and I don't care that you don't care I don't believe you.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Got any leftover straw from that argument? Rumplestiltskin is over and I'd like to get some gold thread. So my core beliefs in God and Christ are wrong cuz YOU say there's no such people/entities. And you accuse me of thinking I'm smarter than everyone else. Funny stuff that.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

And this has WHAT to do with the article again?? Keep the red herrings and strawmen coming.

Just refuting the nonsense that you are some down to earth honest person calling it like you see it. You got your biases and you idiocy and it clouds your judgement.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

You don't think I care about Canada? You don't think I care about successive governments pissing away our nation's future?

Sure. You must be THE ONLY ONE. Think they don't care about Canada? Think any of our past PMs didn't? Remember what I said about you not shit and just complaing about everything? This is a prime example. Everybody else must not care about Canada because they don't do what you want.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

As for your "evidence" it's a load of shit and you know it. People can call themsleves anything they want, doesn't mean they are.

We've seen your evidence (or what you think is evidence) on both the evolution thread and the Hitler thread.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

If I go to the arena every day and play pick up hockey with my buds, does that make me a hockey player? Hell by your sense of twisted logic I must be an actor because I was in a couple of plays. Oh wait, I'm missing the main ingredient. "I AM AN ACTOR!" There, now I'm an actor because I said I was.

It does make you a hockey player and it does make you an actor. It just doesn't make you a professional hockey player or actor. See the distinction? Boy, I just got you all flustered don't I?

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Wrong again princess, your bias is truly blind. You can't even see the good that religion can and has done for people. For you all religion and religious people are inherently evil, no matter what their personal actions have been. You refuse to separate the individual from the group. Some cops do bad things. Are all cops inherently bad then? Ohhh hey, I'll use your example.

Wrong again sunshine. Its entirely that you think like this that you cannot admit the truth about Hitler. You think admitting it taints all of christinaity because you use that ideology on other ideologies.

Bad cops don't mean all cops are bad but it does not erase the fact that they were indeed cops. Logic. Its a bitch when you can't understand it.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Chretien hated the military, thusly by default, you hate the military too because yer a Liberal. See how that works? So now we know, you hate the Canadian military and it's soldiers.

Again case in point. Chretien didn't hate the military. You just claim that kinda BS because he didn't do what you wanted for the military.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

I won't even bother with the rest of what you said because the quoted comment of yours is so incredibly fucking dumb it boggles the mind.

Yeah we can see what logic does to you.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

You can't even keep your arguments straight. On one hand you simply repeated what I said about successive governments passing the buck, and then say that in way yes, it only became a problem AFTER Harper got in. Which is it princess?

That is because you are to busy crying about things you don't understand. Follow the logic. When Harper took over as PM the problem of unavailable beds for Vets BECOMES HIS PROBLEM because he is in charge. Its up to him to fix it. I didn't say it only became a problem after he got in, I said the PROBLEM BECOMES HIS.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Oh and here's the best part since you accuse me of dodging what you consider to be a valid point in the article, ie the F-35. Iggy is in there like a fly on shit trying to make hay over this article like he actually gives a damn.

Sure because he hates Canada like all the others do. Amazing how you believe all our elected officials simply detest Canada. Here is a thought. Why don't you stick your holier then thou attitude up your ass and run for office. Hell you'd be the first elected official to actually care about the country.

Here's a new thought for you sunshine. Loving the military (your level of it of course) and loving Canada aren't irreversibly bound no matter how much you want it to be. Its a big country and evrybody has their own idea about what makes it great.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

I wonder where he was when Harper wasn't acting on his promise to fix this? I don't seem to recall Iggy or the Opposition screaming at him to get on with it. Actually, I don't recall hearing Iggy or the Opposition screaming while Harper and the CPC were busy closing beds.

That's right. Fuck the opposition for not forcing Harper. Partisan garbage that you claim you don't have or were you speaking ironicly? Do you even have any evidence that the CPC was actively closing Vet beds for that matter?

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

What I do recall hearing is a bunch of threats to call an election and a bunch of bullshit rhetoric. You'd think if Iggy really cared, we would have heard something from him OR his office over the last 2 years about this. At this point, the only difference between Iggy and Harper is party affiliation. Other than that, they are both bottom feeders.

Yeah damn them for not making your priorities their priorities. Yet again I'll point out if you hate every single politician and party then start your own. We need self-righteous people to fix the country.

BTW, what do you think are the odds the marajuana party will do anything you want other then legalize it? For somebody who thinks so highly of military spending you are really throwing your support behind the best possible candidate.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

I singled Chretien out because his move was particularily callous. He didn't just pass the buck, he made sure he tore it up into little pieces before passing it. If you don't think I have the right to bitch about someone I voted for, I'm sure you'll feel much more comfortable in a nice fascist environment.

So I had every right to make a snarky reminder that Harper is currently to blame? Thank-you for admitting your entire argument at this point was wrong. I admire your honesty.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

You don't think he would have done it? Obviously Chretien thought he would, otherwise he wouldn't have shitcanned him.

Can you prove that? Can you prove he deliberately fired the guy because he was going to build more beds for Vets?

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

I'm gonna give you that one Derby because no government has had a morally defensible position when it comes to the lack of care for our veterans. This current crop of shitheads isn't any better. From closing down hospital beds for vets, to wanting to completely dispense with the Dept. of Veteran's Affairs or reduce the number of employees due to the "shrinking" population of our veterans. The reality is there are hundreds of thousands of modern day Canadian Forces and RCMP veterans and their families who require assistance from this department.

Oh well now that we are being nice to each other I take back all the nasty things I said about about you.

Again the point is "run for office".

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Apparently you have to have served no later than Korea to be considered a vet, and being RCMP doesn't seem to count anymore, according to Harper's line of thinking anyway. However, like it or not, there are two sides to this problem and neither side has anything to brag about. It was the Liberals that sent our current generation of soldiers to A-stan and did so without making sure the proper, or at least sufficient infrastructure was in place for them when they returned, as well as the rest of our veterans. They had just as long as Harper has had to do something about it. Doesn't excuse Harper's or the CPC's recent actions either. After doing some more searching(it's amazing what you find when yer looking for something else) it seems that there have been a disturbing number of bed closures for veterans during the last few years. Which makes me wonder if old Lego Hair's Lego hair is snapped on too tight. July 14th of this year in London is the most recent I ran across, to the tune of some 40-something beds, with more to follow in the next couple of months. Which makes the timing of this story make Harper look like the asshole he's turned out to be. Doesn't make Iggy look good either when he includes his retarded comments in the article while having said nothing over the closures before this story broke.

It takes very little for you to hate politicians. What makes you think your position is any different or justified then any of the "cop haters" you accuse or your belief about my opinion of christians?

Substitute "diggerdick" for "PublicAnimalNo9" and "cop" for "policitian" and voila.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Hmmmm really? There are more than a few threads in here where I've ragged on Harper for being a clone in the same vein as Ol' Moosejaw, whom I revile with a passion. Not my fault you didn't see those threads. Not to mention the digs at Iggy and Layton. Although I don't really take shots at Layton too much, it's just too easy. So move along HackDuff, I grow weary of your partisan hackery and trolling.

Can you read?

I said you just haven't got any candidates to support yet. I'm a partisan hack against the CPC. You are one against every single party, well except the marijuana party that is.